In a dilemma over returning to the sport

[the music man]

Edit: After reviewing what I just wrote, it's more of a rant than anything, so there, you've been warned.

I want a mag. Badly. A few years ago, I had gone through several guns, and finally settled on a Spydermag. It was amazing. No eyes (yet it never chopped), just as fast as anything on the field, turned heads. It was better than any Matrix or cocker I ever had (or shot). I also used it several times with an Intelliframe, and it was those times that made me realize that mags are just the best mechs, no question.

Now I'm going through AO and PBN, trying to find parts so I can put together a lightweight mech mag. Mini-Shadow rail, Deadlywind Fibur barrel and CF foregrip, etc. However, when I add up the prices for all the used parts I find, it still comes up more expensive than a new $600 RPG Pro Custom I could buy, which is also brand new.

$600 is pretty expensive when you figure in that I also need a new hopper (looking at the Vlocity Jr, seems light and quick enough), tank, pod pack, mask, and a bunch of little things (fill nipple covers, tank cover, rail/asa, etc). The total comes out as a lot more than I want to spend, especially on a mech gun.

I was also looking at FEP Quests and Proto SLG's. I could get a used Quest for $300 or a new SLG for $250. Put them together, and they're both still cheaper than the Pro Custom. ARGH!

So I'm pretty much in a quandry. If I don't get the Pro Custom, I know I'll end up being dissatisfied with whatever gun I pick, because it just isn't a mag. However, I'll be spending way more on a simple mech than on a modern electro, likely more than I can easily afford.

Is there anything I can do? Paintball calls to me. I have a job, but I have to pay for a bunch of stuff as it is (I'm in college, btw).

[questionful]

Instead of buying all the pieces separately, buy a whole set-up (used) all at once. Much cheaper, and mags are awesome enough that it doesn't matter if they're used or not. And you can swap parts if you find one later that you like and you have enough money. After a while, you'll have the set-up you like.

[Mechanic79]

wait and see which one is still around in 5+ years and working.....

AGD quality is worth it. $600 of AGD will last a lifetime. or you spend 200-400 every other year for a lifetime

[Siress]

'course you get a biased review over here.

My ion has, and continues to server me very well. I suggest a mini, used and upgraded ion, or PMR for the time being. If you feel like you want to upgrade later, you can do so at your leisure; as these guns will keep you playing. My money would be with the mini...

Or you could always buy a used mag...

[Lohman446]

I bought two minis when they first came out. I resolved the early bugs (updated poppet) without ever actually having any problems. I never used my back-up.

[dixieoutfitter94]

Edit: After reviewing what I just wrote, it's more of a rant than anything, so there, you've been warned.

I want a mag. Badly. A few years ago, I had gone through several guns, and finally settled on a Spydermag. It was amazing. No eyes (yet it never chopped), just as fast as anything on the field, turned heads. It was better than any Matrix or cocker I ever had (or shot). I also used it several times with an Intelliframe, and it was those times that made me realize that mags are just the best mechs, no question.

Now I'm going through AO and PBN, trying to find parts so I can put together a lightweight mech mag. Mini-Shadow rail, Deadlywind Fibur barrel and CF foregrip, etc. However, when I add up the prices for all the used parts I find, it still comes up more expensive than a new $600 RPG Pro Custom I could buy, which is also brand new.

$600 is pretty expensive when you figure in that I also need a new hopper (looking at the Vlocity Jr, seems light and quick enough), tank, pod pack, mask, and a bunch of little things (fill nipple covers, tank cover, rail/asa, etc). The total comes out as a lot more than I want to spend, especially on a mech gun.

I was also looking at FEP Quests and Proto SLG's. I could get a used Quest for $300 or a new SLG for $250. Put them together, and they're both still cheaper than the Pro Custom. ARGH!

So I'm pretty much in a quandry. If I don't get the Pro Custom, I know I'll end up being dissatisfied with whatever gun I pick, because it just isn't a mag. However, I'll be spending way more on a simple mech than on a modern electro, likely more than I can easily afford.

Is there anything I can do? Paintball calls to me. I have a job, but I have to pay for a bunch of stuff as it is (I'm in college, btw).

well, don't get the velocity jr., they barely feed 17. Sometimes people are getting out of the sport and want stuff for another sport. Maybe you could trade some non pb stuff for their gear then, buy the mag you want or trade plus cash or what ever. Basicly, just trade for gear and buy the marker.

P.S., Siress, I got into mags by my ion being broke and Maniacmechanic letting me use a classic, a classic in which I bought like a week later.

[the music man]

A Mini, people say... I'll take it into consideration. The thing is, if I end up with an electro, it's gotta be able to keep up with my fingers, and I can walk consistently at 15 bps, sometimes a little faster. I've just heard things about the trigger not being the greatest. I'll read lots of reviews though. Thanks for the input!

dixie - I was going to get the Vlocity, then upgrade it with that board that's popular (if I needed it). I've heard that with the board, it feeds fast enough for anyone.

[questionful]

Classic valves, on HPA, can keep up to 16bps I've heard. You can just make yourself a pneumag for not much money, and when you have enough money, just switch the valve.

[the music man]

Classic valves, on HPA, can keep up to 16bps I've heard. You can just make yourself a pneumag for not much money, and when you have enough money, just switch the valve.

I don't have the tech experience or equipment to make my own pneumag. Besides, I already thought about this, and decided that if I was going to make a pneumag, it would be sleeper-style, which requires a bit more handiwork. Not something I can do (although I wish I could).

[dixieoutfitter94]

buy a 100 dollar classic mag, sell the trigger frame for 20 bucks, buy a G force oneumatic frame for 200 bucks, buy an lpr for 35 bucks, bolt it all up and you have a sleeper style pneumag.

[the music man]

Well, I did a bunch of research on the Mini, and concluded that I definitely don't want to take a chance on it. I keep seeing lots of people talking about all sorts of problems with the things. Love the size and weight, but if the thing broke on me, I'd just be pissed. That's why I like mags - they don't break, haha. Simple as pie to take care of too.

dixie - Cool plan, but I honestly want to have a gun that looks nice. Looks aren't everything of course, but they're a factor.

[punkncat]

I used a Mini last year all through the CFOA season and had ZERO, count em, ZERO problems with it. I have yet to have any issue at all.

Mags are far more reliable and sturdy though.

[AirAssault]

Not taking the time to read the entire thread....

The only issue with the other markers you listed is re-sale value. You will be able to get near what you paid for your mag items, try that with any other mass produced marker and you will see. What you pay $600 for today, you will get at least 80-90% back depending on condition. Go with the mag FTW

[the music man]

Not taking the time to read the entire thread....

The only issue with the other markers you listed is re-sale value. You will be able to get near what you paid for your mag items, try that with any other mass produced marker and you will see. What you pay $600 for today, you will get at least 80-90% back depending on condition. Go with the mag FTW

Yeah, I did take that into account.

I'm thinking I'm going to have to go with the mag. If I end up with the electro itch, I'll get that $200 pneumag frame (not anytime soon though, haha... oh wow my wallet is going to get a LOT smaller soon).

[trevorjk]

Yeah, I did take that into account.

I'm thinking I'm going to have to go with the mag. If I end up with the electro itch, I'll get that $200 pneumag frame (not anytime soon though, haha... oh wow my wallet is going to get a LOT smaller soon).

why?

use paypal or plastic... your wallet will stay the same size