???AGD question???

[jnbradl]

I want to start out by saying this is in no way shape or form is an attempt to be little anything or anyone. I am not trying to start any commotion or prove any points. I am an avid paintball player but have never owned an automag, nor have I had any experience with AGD. I want everyone to be honest here. If your automag is "awesome" than great, but lets be open to positive criticism as well. If this thread gets into a "flaming" of AGD I more than hope that the mods with pull it, because that is not what I want.

With that being said, I would like to ask a question to the Official board of Automags. If you were in my shoes would you recommend buying an Automag? Before you answer let me explain a little background of why I am writing this. As I stated above I have never owned an Automag. I am torn between purchasing a Tac-One and another brand of marker. I was sold on a Tac-one until I came here and started to read. It seems you can not read far without hearing something negative about AGD and even reading something like"AGD is dead." This is very disheartening coming from the official board. Then even after all this I still tried to get in touch with one of the 2 automag custom builders that I know about(found about from here). After several emails and attempted PMs I can not get in touch with him. Its pretty bad when you cant get someone to return an email so you can pay him some money for a service . Then if you read on here you hear that the other is going through personal/financial troubles. I will not sit here and try to debate the quality of AGD markers, but are the problems of the company and the companies that support them bad enough to turn a prospective buyers opinion? Well I can answer this one since it does apply to me. It can and almost has in my case. Now I am hoping that some of you with more experience and history with this can give me hope. I just want that opinion to be an honest one, and if you your opinion is not so optimistic I need to hear that too.

[dixieoutfitter94]

well, if you're looking to be "agg", dont get a mag; if you want a fast, good quality, accurate marker that you can take a shower with, buy a mag. I loved my ion (I still would if I still had it ) but when it was broke and maniacmechanic let me use a classic (which I now own), I started to try an get mags and I just bought a rail and wish I could get my money back to fund a new mag. I would deffinately buy a mag over anything else.

[jnbradl]

dixie,

I dont want to be an"agg".(had to look up what an agg was to know for sure) I want everything that a mag is, just do not want to be buying into a product from a sinking ship(if thats the case, which I REALLY hope its not.)


edit: Also I do not want this to be a debate of whether a Mag is a great gun or not. Believe me that is not what I am questioning since I too believe a Mag is a great gun, but would the "appearance" of troubles that stated above be enough to stop a prospective buyer? Is it a good investment for the ones that want to have this marker for the next 10 years?

[dixieoutfitter94]

If you like it then why does that matter? I'm not trying to be a jerk, just wondering.

[Sumthinwicked]

well i have owned about 37 mags some poeple still own at one time 40 2000$ mags so yea the tac is so worth it.. they will always work with comp air "rain, snow,muddy out bah grab the mag" it was my tourney backup to my shocker ( yea yea before u bust my butt i traded it for an extra longbow ) i have one agd tacone longbow and i love it i have made 4 of them and sold 3 they resell really well a tacone will resell for about 400 ish by itself all day and used oldschool mags you can get em on here for 100 any day i prefer mags to ANYTHING i own 2 atm both are way past 400 each the longbow is about 900 altogether not counting the 400 nightscope i have the other isnt finished yet shes a pretty lil toy though either way you can believe my 90+ feedback on here theyre a rock solid gun that wil work forever with a lil oil and an oring or two every few years that is LOL

[Sumthinwicked]

If you like it then why does that matter? I'm not trying to be a prick, just wondering.

edit that u might get banned!

[jnbradl]

dixie,

No offense taken. Why I care is that a maker of this caliber is a big investment(for me at least) and I do not want to be left in the dark 5-10 years from now. I know there is no guarantee, but if this marker and another marker are close in the running the welfare of Automags(AGD, AO, aftermarket companies) are a deciding factor for me. I dont believe I am the only one.

If you like it then why does that matter? I'm not trying to be a prick, just wondering.

[dixieoutfitter94]

if you keep then you have nothing to worry about

[Motorhead]

I am relatively new to Mags myself ... But can compare them to some other top of the line "Old School" markers I still own and shoot to this day.

Own a PPS 2K Blazer semi ....

Own a CCM S-5 auto cocker ...

** My Simple 68 Classic Auto Mag is SMOOTHER, More COMPACT, Vibrates LESS, And Is More RELIABLE than the above markers !!

Given the want of still playing semi would LOVE to own a ULE bodied X-Valved version

But anymore my semis sit unused, while the Pump Guns get 98% of the play time.

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IMO, AGD had it's heyday @ 10 years ago when what it was had NO rivals !!
Recent years of plastics & composite materials, Electronic doodads and rates of fire that seem to drive the market, the AGD markers failed to keep there appeal.
Mind you not by lack of a quality product or rate of fire ... Just AGD never did and still does not promote it's self or the products it produces. They are a FANTASTIC marker no matter your "Bling" requirements, and you can piece together one from all the parts around to fit your idea of the perfect marker.

[dixieoutfitter94]

I am relatively new to Mags myself ... But can compare them to some other top of the line "Old School" markers I still own and shoot to this day.

Own a PPS 2K Blazer semi ....

Own a CCM S-5 auto cocker ...

** My Simple 68 Classic Auto Mag is SMOOTHER, More COMPACT, Vibrates LESS, And Is More RELIABLE than the above markers !!

Given the want of still playing semi would LOVE to own a ULE bodied X-Valved version

But anymore my semis sit unused, while the Pump Guns get 98% of the play time.

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IMO, AGD had it's heyday @ 10 years ago when what it was had NO rivals !!
Recent years of plastics & composite materials, Electronic doodads and rates of fire that seem to drive the market, the AGD markers failed to keep there appeal.
Mind you not by lack of a quality product or rate of fire ... Just AGD never did and still does not promote it's self or the products it produces. They are a FANTASTIC marker no matter your "Bling" requirements, and you can piece together one from all the parts around to fit your idea of the perfect marker.

thats another good point, you can build a mag just from parts. You can do that with any other marker but not like a mag if you know what I mean.

[Sumthinwicked]

he speaka the truth ^^^^^^^^^ btw i have owned a mag for about herm maybe 12/ 14 years

[maniacmechanic]

dixie,

No offense taken. Why I care is that a maker of this caliber is a big investment(for me at least) and I do not want to be left in the dark 5-10 years from now. I know there is no guarantee, but if this marker and another marker are close in the running the welfare of Automags(AGD, AO, aftermarket companies) are a deciding factor for me. I dont believe I am the only one.

I don't think you will be able to show me any other markers that will out last the Mag & hold thier value at the same time ; last years high end 1000$ marker is now worth what 60% of what it sold for new, now that the new one's are out & I really don't think many of them will make it to the 10 year mark

[dixieoutfitter94]

I don't think you will be able to show me any other markers that will out last the Mag & hold thier value at the same time ; last years high end 1000$ marker is now worth what 60% of what it sold for new, now that the new one's are out & I really don't think many of them will make it to the 10 year mark

like patricks dmc, it was 1400 in 05, now its worth about 350 3 years later; my like primary mag is worth that and its like 5-10 years old!

[FOG]

I also am a new mag owner and I had wanted one since they 1st came out.They were the BEST marker of the time (in most peoples opinion) w/Cockers being what the other half said was the best.
( i started w/ nelspots wayyyyyyyyy back ) .
I now own a classic and a micromag and love em both !
The ONLY thing that bothers me is,,, i can NOT walk into the local PB shop and have it worked on.
Which means i have to be my own tech. That i dont like.
Sometimes i would prefer to drop a marker off pay $30.oo dollars an pick it up fixed.

I have issues now that need to be looked at and have been to bizzy to learn how to tech them myself.
I wont sell them because of that ,there GREAT and SEXY .

Thats just my lil peave.

[Toll]

Mags aren't dead as there is actually a huge resurgence since the pnuemag. Realistically anything you need to or want to do to your mag, you can do it. In 10 years I can't tell you there won't be better things out there, but 10 years is a long time no matter what you have. In 3 years you will be as happy as the day you bought it.