???AGD question???

[SR_matt]

mags are good guns hands down, dont need to convince you of that

now the whole will agd be around to support you, maybe maybe not, i would assume they are going to stay around, while by many peoples standards they might not be thriving but they are still around.

personally while i would love to see agd survive and thrive if they went under i wouldnt be to worried about my marker, id probably pick up an extra parts kit or 2 and move a long. mags are simple enough that getting agd to service your gun either means you have some terrible terrible luck, you let it go way to far with out maintenance, or your to busy/lazy to figure it out your self.

i guess i might be weird but weather or not the company im getting a marker from is going to be around or not isnt as important to me as how the gun is, if its a good gun get it and then if they go under you have a rare cool old school gun that the value could go back up on

-matt

[jnbradl]

I would like to say thank you to everyone that responded. I have decided on an Automag. I actually was 99% postive before, just wanted to get some other opinions. I believe all of you are right. If I get a quality marker from A.G.D. now, it does not really matter if they are around the day after they ship it as long as I can keep it in service. From all of your experience and history with this I am sure that will not be a problem. Now comes the real question which configuration to choose!

[phizz]

I love my AGD's and of course they are fading when you make something that lasts forever you are bound to run out of people to buy them Kinda like that gum commercial on TV with the extra long taste. that being said I don't see them really fading. They have a strong user base, and support system. There are of course not as many techs as there were in their glory days, so if they are slow getting back to you its because they are busy. I have bought numerous parts for the company website and I have never had to wait for them to ship.

The mags are durable, I play pretty mcuh only bushball as well, and I can't tell you how many times my xmag and I have tripped (err.. dove) and gone crashing into rocks. It always comes up firing. Some people may be horrified by this, but yes my xmag is used to its full potential, holding nothing back. I also play throughout the Canadian winter and the mags are the most reliable markers out there with the fewest problems. I have seen Freestyles, PM7's, borgs, vikings, cockers all go down but never a mag. Mine all run strong as well as my friends but we basically have the only mags around. I know the others aren't beause of maintenance and care because the viking freestyle and cockers were mine and I baby them. The PM7 and Borgs are taken care of by great guys as well but I guess they just don't like the cold. Anyways what I am saying is that they are a top notch marker.

The two things I don't like too much is that I have troubles getting mine to shoot around 270fps. I usually play around 300 which is no problem but one field requires 270 or less. The other is they are a gas hogs, not a probem on fields but I often head out into the bush and have to pack an extra tank all the time with me.

as far as configuration and like you said earlier you don't care if you shoot 20bps, I would try for just a classic at first. Though I do love the micromag bodies they look tactical and are cocker threaded and cheaper then the tac-one. Definately get a lvl 10.

[trevorjk]

phizz. try the medium spring when trying to get that velocity

[AirAssault]

Your right maybe I am not worthy of a mag. Now back to the threads actual discussion. As I stated above in the orginal post, this is no way a shot at A.G.D. In my opinion I believe the automag is a great marker, no debating that. I was only trying to get answers and opinions on my questions above. If I offended you or your marker I am sorry. Just rather ask the questions and get answers than worry about offending a few. "Not trying to be a Jerk", but if your tired of reading these types of threads...don't. Thanks to the rest of you that gave me your honest opinions.

You didn't offend me or the marker I play with. You, I'm assuming are an adult or close to it? Why do you need our help deciding what marker to buy. Even though you put your disclaimer on the top of your first post, it still doesn't change the fact that these types of posts get very old very fast. You can do a search and find lots and lots of them. Buy the marker you want to buy, if it's a mag, cool. If it's something else, cool too. Be and individual and not what ever one else thinks you should be.

[Railgun]

If part of how you play is based on how the marker feels when you're shooting it then you'll love the Automag.

Since I started paintball a year ago I've been quite the gun slut. I'm up to around 30'ish markers of all sorts. But even if I was to pare this all down to just the neccesities I would still have 4 guns that all have really unique personalities and feel when using them. An autococker, a simple stacked tube blowback, a Nelson pump... and an Automag. These 4 represent the most truly unique sounds and feedback when using them.

I seriously doubt that you'll regret your decision to get one.

[jnbradl]

Airassualt,

I agree with you about the fact of being an individual. My first post was not meant to be a popularity contest. If it had been I would of put a poll and would of asked everyone to vote and would of choose the gun that won. I have tried to explain above and will do so again. Let me put my thoughts another way. When I decide to purchase a gun of this caliber(which I have) I believe that I am buying into something more than a piece of crafted metal and O-rings. For me, and maybe just me, I take the whole thing into consideration such as the company that produces it, the support I can get from boards like this one, and suppliers of after market parts. Lets say I purchase a Tac-one tommorrow and I become the first person in history to have a problem with an automag(sarcasm), I would like to know that if I need a part I can purchase it without searching days through online classifieds and forums. When something goes wrong with your car would you rather go to the dealer(AGD), PeP Boys(supplier of parts), or search through multiple junkyards(Forums, Ebay, Craigslist) to find a replacement part? Believe it or not I care about the general "health" of automags in regards to my decision to purchase one. I am not alone as I have several PMs from people on this board that would like to give me their opinion without being flamed for it. I mean you no disrespect, but you are the only one that has attacked my way of thinking for asking this question in this thread. By stating things like try to be an individual, question my being an adult or not, dont know if I am Mag worthy etc. I just do not know what you are trying to accomplish. Sometimes when I read this negative post I think if this is such a great product and company why are people so zealous about criticizing the people that want to ask tough questions about it??? Just a thought. By no means do I think you are not entitled to your opinion about these post, just start your own thread instead of trying to debate it off topic in another one.

You didn't offend me or the marker I play with. You, I'm assuming are an adult or close to it? Why do you need our help deciding what marker to buy. Even though you put your disclaimer on the top of your first post, it still doesn't change the fact that these types of posts get very old very fast. You can do a search and find lots and lots of them. Buy the marker you want to buy, if it's a mag, cool. If it's something else, cool too. Be and individual and not what ever one else thinks you should be.

[secretweaponevan]

Even if AGD completely disolved, a 'mag's consumables would still be easy enough to find as they are pretty darn simple.

Consumables:
O-rings - easy to find as AGD used industry standard o-rings.
Sear - really easy for any machinist to start cooking these up.
Bolt spring - These basically last forever, but I'm sure someone would step up to the plate and make them as all mags use them.

After a nuclear holocaust, cockroaches will be shooting mags.

[Bagheera]

After a nuclear holocaust, cockroaches will be shooting mags.

This is so quotable.

[jade_monkey07]

After a nuclear holocaust, cockroaches will be shooting mags.

This is so quotable.

Filthy Cockaroaches takin ma gun

[211]

Tag 'em, bag 'em, automag 'em

[dboggs79]

I also am a new mag owner and I had wanted one since they 1st came out.They were the BEST marker of the time (in most peoples opinion) w/Cockers being what the other half said was the best.
( i started w/ nelspots wayyyyyyyyy back ) .
I now own a classic and a micromag and love em both !
The ONLY thing that bothers me is,,, i can NOT walk into the local PB shop and have it worked on.
Which means i have to be my own tech. That i dont like.
Sometimes i would prefer to drop a marker off pay $30.oo dollars an pick it up fixed.

I have issues now that need to be looked at and have been to bizzy to learn how to tech them myself.
I wont sell them because of that ,there GREAT and SEXY .

Thats just my lil peave.

If your local PB shop techs can't work on a mag, I don't think I would let them work on anything of mine. I can't think of a more simple gun to work on.

[Drix]

Holy thread resurection batman!

[El Camino]

I am fairly new to Automags (one year) and I like to custom build they, so I buy a lot of used parts, so basically I buy other peoples problems. Not knowing the ins and outs of Mags, I found all the support I needed here on AO and AGD to fix them. So if you buy that Tac One and a have a problem down the road with it, you will have the support to fix it, even from the guys that fix them for a living, they helped me. So you should have a great working marker 10 years from now, and I'm sure AO and AGD will be here too. Hope this helps.

[Drix]

Am I the only one to notice this thread was from 2007 ?