Mag vs. Shocker

[Wavesport001]

If price was no option would you play with a Mag or Shocker? Please explain why! I've got my options narrowed to these two markers, so any input would be appreciated!

[jshelto3]

With an electropneumatic frame and the COMPLETE reliability of an automag, how could there be any other choice.

Every shocker I have been around has been fussy. They are good shooters when there working though.

[Stayhuge]

Hello,

Just a few things. You are asking this question on an Automag website, so opinions will be biased. Personally, I have owned 2 shockers and 2 mags, and many other guns, but these are the two that you are asking about. I owned a pre 2000 Shoebox shocker, with select fire modes. This one I had absolutely no problems with. I even didn't use it for 2 years, picked it back up and it was working great. Then I sold it, bought and sold a bunch of other guns, and ended up with an 03 SFT Shocker. It was great for a while. I slowly added to it, little by little. New bolt, trigger, board, feedneck. Then my solenoind blew out. I sent it to Smart Parts. $25 and a week later I had it back, but it wasn't the same. I had velocity issues. I called SP and they walked me through a few things. Still had some issues with the bolt sticking, and misfiring. I sold it back in May and bought a ULE Custom, brand new from AGD. After a Vert frame, barrel, some new hoses, and feedneck, I have never been more happy with a marker. When I had the Shocker, I played a lot of indoor, but lately my buddies and I have been playing in the woods more often. I feel like the ULE is a great woodsball gun, and can definately hold its own indoors, where as the Shocker is more fussy. It's really a matter of preference though. With the Shocker, you will sling more paint, which costs more. This is pretty much a fact. I definately used twice as much paint as I do now. Also, if you get the Shocker, make sure you have a good, reliable backup marker. I remember, when I bought the Shoebox one, I had brought it into the store to get some upgrade, I can't remember off the top of my head. The salesman said to me: "Shockers are like Jaguars, you need two! One for the field, and one for the shop!" I didn't think it was that funny then, but looking back, it could be true. Just my 2 cents. Money wise, for the price of the NXT, you could buy the ULE Custom, and do a bunch of upgrades, so it should be cheaper, and much more reliable. Good luck with your decision.

[68magOwner]

protege.




but, of the two you listed, shocker. Because, while, I love the feel of automags, your just going to have a harder time playing competative tournament ball with one than you would shocker.

[mpsd]

Had a Shocker with Predator board, eyes and Freak barrel. Great shooter.

But nothing like a Mag... Mags RULES!!!

[B-Pow]

Do you know where you are?

Not only because the people here love mags, but the majority would rather sit out the day then play with a gun made by the devil.

It also comes down to a few other things:

Do you want to tinker for fun (mag) or so that it will function (shocker)
Do you want fire modes (shocker) or semi ony (mag)
Do you want to have the agg gun that the kiddies have (shocker) or something that is uncommon (mag)

New shockers can be had cheap now, but ask yourself how long will each gun last and what is your style of play. Also how much abuse is your gun going to take...and do you think it's going to survive the abuse.

[dixieoutfitter94]

I had a shocker and it was nice for the week I had it. Everybody says they break alot. Shockers loose value quickly and can be found cheap but mags dont loose value and you can build one from just parts (you can do that with any else but you know what I mean). Speedball with an rtmag isnt gonna go over so well. The refs wont like you shooting 20bps. You can take a shocker to pretty much any pro shop but not mags. Thats about the only complant I have about mags. If money wasnt an object then I would buy the nastiest xmag you ever seen over a fully upped shocker even if they were the same price.

[punkncat]

Shockers, like any spool valve marker have a tendency to be a bit finicky. Keep a couple of rebuild kits on hand and use nothing but shocker lube (dow) as many other brands of grease will give you cole weather issues.
I suggest as well that you get a board that has the ABS (first shot dwell) feature as shockers are famous for having a low first shot after sitting for a minute.
I have owned two of them, and together they didn't make it a month. Just too maintainance oriented. Not that I couldn't work on them, I just don't like having to fiddle with a marker every time I use it.

The mag on the other hand is bullet proof and will last you forever. As has been stated they hold a really good value. If you know what you are doing and have a talk with the promotor of your local tourney series its not uncommon to be able to set it up for use in a series. I know that Larry Motes (CFOA) is a huge mag fan as well as Josh Silverman. I used an adjustable air source and had my mag approved for use as I was staying under 15 with the RT effect. In essence he told me if and refs had a problem tell them to look for the batteries and beyond that to talk to him. Very cool!!!

If you are only going to play rec ball, stick with the mag. You will appreciate it more in the long run. As far as going more modern I personally think there are better choices out there that a Shocker. Plus side is that there are lots of parts and lots of people familiar with fixing them....kinda makes you think though....

Final thought is that if you buy a Shocker you are supporting an evil empire.

[Ruler_Mark]

i would take a classic valve'd mag that has had dirt run through it that i have to hand feed and with CO2 as an air source be4 i shoot a shocker.

[Chronobreak]

If price was no option would you play with a Mag or Shocker? Please explain why! I've got my options narrowed to these two markers, so any input would be appreciated!

Tom kaye himself will post here and say he has 100% faith in his markers and their reliability and performance.

i doubt youl get that kind of responce from any of the gardners on an SP forum

[RavishingEddie]

Or you could do what I am doing and build a gun with the reliability and precision accuracy of the mag with the speed and smooth trigger of the shocker.

Shoot I think I might of let the cat out on this one Nevermind what I just said.

[Ruler_Mark]

Or you could do what I am doing and build a gun with the reliability and precision accuracy of the mag with the speed and smooth trigger of the shocker.

Shoot I think I might of let the cat out on this one Nevermind what I just said.

need a noid? i got a:http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-b...Code=SOLENOIDS

i need to sell pm me.


EP mag with a shocker frame i presume?

[xxkylexx]

You picked the wrong forum to be asking this question....

[RavishingEddie]

need a noid? i got a:http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-b...Code=SOLENOIDS

i need to sell pm me.


EP mag with a shocker frame i presume?

You were right about the shocker frame, but not using any pneumatics Kruger and Luke are the only ones that know of my evil plans Muahahaha

[MoeMag]

Shockers=fail.