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  • koz138
    Registered User
    • Jan 2008
    • 11

    #1

    I have an upgrade question

    i was approached by a buddy of mine and was [/IMG] asked if I ever played and own any paintball equipmenti told him ya and asked why and he told he just picked up and A-5 and 98 Custume, and asked if i would play. well needless to say it took on a life of its own. I own a Mini Mag. I'm the third owner of the gun. the last time i used it was about 6 yrs ago. Took it out of it case two weeks ago and lite up the shed up in my back yard

    The problem is this gun has not seen and upgrade in probably 8 or 9 yrs. The only upgrades were gone by the first owner. he installed a Turbo expension system with a Sheridan RG-1 regulator and a Lvl 7 Bolt kits (the bolt is brass) and a Reactor high Perform. On/Off Assembly.

    I am really out of the loop with all the upgrades. I'm definite on the Intelliframe double trigger. but the Lvl 10 and the X- valve i'm not sure on. I don't know how to put this but with the stock A.I.R. reg, will it be a problem for the Lvl 10. I kept reading that it was important to make sure air pressure was tune in. remember this gun has the orginal A.I.R. reg on it. Or would it bein my best interest just to step it up to the X-Valve.

    Thought, Ideas, hell Prayers are greatly appriacated.
  • foefumm
    Registered User
    • Dec 2007
    • 58

    #2
    Hi Koz,
    Well for what it's worth I am in the same situation as you...just unpacked my Minimag and played last week...after several years.
    Anyway I will be looking at the lvl10 first, rather than the X-valve, because I still use C02. And before I upgrade to the X-valve(which will not work on C02) I will buy a HPS tank. From what I have read on this board the lvl10 should work fine(with AIR/Classic valve) but needs a bit of tuning...anyone please correct me if I am wrong.
    Originally posted by koz138
    i was approached by a buddy of mine and was [/IMG] asked if I ever played and own any paintball equipmenti told him ya and asked why and he told he just picked up and A-5 and 98 Custume, and asked if i would play. well needless to say it took on a life of its own. I own a Mini Mag. I'm the third owner of the gun. the last time i used it was about 6 yrs ago. Took it out of it case two weeks ago and lite up the shed up in my back yard

    The problem is this gun has not seen and upgrade in probably 8 or 9 yrs. The only upgrades were gone by the first owner. he installed a Turbo expension system with a Sheridan RG-1 regulator and a Lvl 7 Bolt kits (the bolt is brass) and a Reactor high Perform. On/Off Assembly.

    I am really out of the loop with all the upgrades. I'm definite on the Intelliframe double trigger. but the Lvl 10 and the X- valve i'm not sure on. I don't know how to put this but with the stock A.I.R. reg, will it be a problem for the Lvl 10. I kept reading that it was important to make sure air pressure was tune in. remember this gun has the orginal A.I.R. reg on it. Or would it bein my best interest just to step it up to the X-Valve.

    Thought, Ideas, hell Prayers are greatly appriacated.

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    • Ruler_Mark
      AKAOG.ORG
      • Aug 2007
      • 2600

      #3
      the only reasons why you would need a xvalve over a classic are:
      Weight, xvalve is lighter
      Speed, xvalve has a faster recharge Requires HPA no CO2
      Trigger pull, xvalve is lighter
      RT effect, xvalve can do it

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      • koz138
        Registered User
        • Jan 2008
        • 11

        #4
        Originally posted by foefumm
        Hi Koz,
        Well for what it's worth I am in the same situation as you...just unpacked my Minimag and played last week...after several years.
        Anyway I will be looking at the lvl10 first, rather than the X-valve, because I still use C02. And before I upgrade to the X-valve(which will not work on C02) I will buy a HPS tank. From what I have read on this board the lvl10 should work fine(with AIR/Classic valve) but needs a bit of tuning...anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

        I didn't even thnk about the HPA. that is good to know. If I get as much I get out this spring and summer before I decide on that. thanks

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        • koz138
          Registered User
          • Jan 2008
          • 11

          #5
          Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
          the only reasons why you would need a xvalve over a classic are:
          Weight, xvalve is lighter
          Speed, xvalve has a faster recharge Requires HPA no CO2
          Trigger pull, xvalve is lighter
          RT effect, xvalve can do it

          dumb question can the co2 bottles take the HPA or are you stuck buy the carbon filber?

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          • koz138
            Registered User
            • Jan 2008
            • 11

            #6
            Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
            the only reasons why you would need a xvalve over a classic are:
            Weight, xvalve is lighter
            Speed, xvalve has a faster recharge Requires HPA no CO2
            Trigger pull, xvalve is lighter
            RT effect, xvalve can do it

            who makes a good barrel. I see Smart Part and DYE are mentined alot.

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            • Ruler_Mark
              AKAOG.ORG
              • Aug 2007
              • 2600

              #7
              CO2 will explode if filled to a high pressure of air.

              Barrel quality all depend son how much $$ you can budget for it

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              • foefumm
                Registered User
                • Dec 2007
                • 58

                #8
                As far as I know, the C02 tanks do not take HPA. But you are not stuck to buying carbon fiber HPA tanks...there are metal tanks available for a lower price than CF, if you do not mind the extra weight.

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                • garbageman705
                  I was the garbageman
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 476

                  #9
                  CO2 regulates itself at around 800 or so PSI. CO2 tanks are made to hold about 3000 psi before they burst.

                  HPA tanks hold 3000/4500/5000 psi then a regulator lowers the pressure down to a usable pressure. usually around 400-800 psi.

                  So, you can put air in a CO2 tank, just don't put more than 1500 psi in it to be on the safe side. As well, since the CO2 tank has no regulator, you need one on the gun otherwise you would blow a valve or shoot really hot.

                  If you put air in a CO2 tank I am not responsible if you kill yourself.

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                  • koz138
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
                    CO2 will explode if filled to a high pressure of air.

                    Barrel quality all depend son how much $$ you can budget for it


                    I've seen kits for 100+ and a single barrel for 30+. I don't mine spending the money. I thnk 2 or 3 good barrels wouldn't be a bad idea just for the fact if a ball breaks i can quickly change and not have to worry about cleaning it right there in te field

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                    • foefumm
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 58

                      #11
                      Koz, here are some helpful tips I got from the AO community regarding air tanks...hope that helps. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223680

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                      • koz138
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11

                        #12
                        Originally posted by foefumm
                        Koz, here are some helpful tips I got from the AO community regarding air tanks...hope that helps. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223680


                        thanks

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                        • Ruler_Mark
                          AKAOG.ORG
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 2600

                          #13
                          if you need help on picking a barrel, use this as some help:
                          Mann's barrel test
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                          • foefumm
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Thanks for that link Ruler_Mark ...I was wondering about the barrel stuff as well.
                            Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
                            if you need help on picking a barrel, use this as some help:
                            Mann's barrel test
                            http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2218018

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                            • koz138
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Originally posted by garbageman705
                              CO2 regulates itself at around 800 or so PSI. CO2 tanks are made to hold about 3000 psi before they burst.

                              HPA tanks hold 3000/4500/5000 psi then a regulator lowers the pressure down to a usable pressure. usually around 400-800 psi.

                              So, you can put air in a CO2 tank, just don't put more than 1500 psi in it to be on the safe side. As well, since the CO2 tank has no regulator, you need one on the gun otherwise you would blow a valve or shoot really hot.

                              If you put air in a CO2 tank I am not responsible if you kill yourself.


                              it will be a lesson learned

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