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  • Rudz
    Registered User

    • Apr 2005
    • 5087

    #46
    whos AGD?
    BEO MAFIA
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    • lather
      Registered User
      • Jul 2004
      • 591

      #47
      Well AGD is doing better than Hybrid or ICD.

      Since AGD runs pretty lean, I bet they are better equiped to survive the paintball recession than many other companies. I think that with the exception of DYE, SP and PE, pretty much every other company in paintball has a chance to close its doors.

      I think the fact that the trend back to lowering rate of fire (PSP, some fields going gravity hopper only use,or limited paint games) would potentially serve to help see more Mags and mech guns in general use.
      Last edited by lather; 02-07-2008, 08:41 AM.
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      • Chronobreak
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #48
        Originally posted by magmonkey
        in my mind, with the rise of pump play, it opens another niche market, I would love..... let me rephrase that I would love to be shooting an agd pump marker... not a pump mag but a dedicated pump platform.

        the way I see it is the electro market is a loosing battle too much BS
        with the disposable e markers smartparts is churning out sceniaro paintball will be heading down the same road

        now you have the pump market
        ccm
        cci
        pps
        all dedicated companys in about the same position as AGD market wise
        all willing to play relitivly fair and interested in the expansion of the sport
        and best of all NO SP PATENT ISSUES

        don't give up on the MAG design it is in my mind the best semi platform availible, but face it agd is a legendary company, especialy to old school players, and now the tables are turning pump is becoming more and more popular. it seems to me like AGD would have a built in customer base in this area of the sport.
        ccm and cci are doing GREAT, cant speak for palmers myself

        the companies are dedicated, do not have a large variety of product/s and are very small operations.

        if these companies along with agd would have expanded greatly during the big years and went all out like some i dont think they would be around still or as prevelant, same goes for cci and ccm.

        keeping the business streamline and service baseds is what has save them, and for those that havent talked to any of the big guys laetely.....theyr all doing very poorly except a small few.

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        • magmonkey
          Mass Destruction
          • Oct 2001
          • 775

          #49
          exactly my point, agd seems to me to fit right in with this. customer service second to nobody, a small amount of extremely well built quality products
          what would it hurt to add one more marker to the lineup, and open up another cottage market?

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          • Chronobreak
            Rec Poster
            • Mar 2003
            • 5055

            #50
            they would be straying from what made them great and has worked for so long

            thats like CCi releasing the semi...

            it just isnt their market or customer base for the most part.

            also of it diddnt use mag parts thats that much more they need to engineer and have instock(more inventory is bad)

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            • lather
              Registered User
              • Jul 2004
              • 591

              #51
              An AGD pump would offer nothing new to the pump market.
              All of the pump manufacturers already offer high quality with great cutomer service. How would an AGD pump stand out among other pump manufacturers?
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              • DanMan
                Pneumag owner
                • Dec 2007
                • 378

                #52
                Originally posted by Chronobreak
                ccm and cci are doing GREAT, cant speak for palmers myself

                the companies are dedicated, do not have a large variety of product/s and are very small operations.

                if these companies along with agd would have expanded greatly during the big years and went all out like some i dont think they would be around still or as prevelant, same goes for cci and ccm.

                keeping the business streamline and service baseds is what has save them, and for those that havent talked to any of the big guys laetely.....theyr all doing very poorly except a small few.
                I can acctually testify to that last part. I ordered a freak over Christmas from direct from the over the phone and the person said that my order was only one of two in there system. Smart Parts at Chrismas and I am one of 2 orders? Thats pretty bad.

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                • magmonkey
                  Mass Destruction
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 775

                  #53
                  Originally posted by lather
                  An AGD pump would offer nothing new to the pump market.
                  All of the pump manufacturers already offer high quality with great cutomer service. How would an AGD pump stand out among other pump manufacturers?
                  rubbish...
                  thats like saying they offered nothing new to the semi market because there were quality semi markers other then the MAG

                  how does CCI or chipley or pps or carter stand out?
                  they make destinctive quality products that speak for themselves.

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                  • lather
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 591

                    #54
                    Originally posted by magmonkey
                    rubbish...
                    thats like saying they offered nothing new to the semi market because there were quality semi markers other then the MAG

                    how does CCI or chipley or pps or carter stand out?
                    they make destinctive quality products that speak for themselves.
                    Thats my point, CCI and PPS are not rubbish, they both offer high quality products combined with great CS. Its much easier for AGD to differntiate themselves in the semi market than the pump market.

                    Pushing for the gravity feed only hoppers or limited paint movement at local rec fields plays to AGD's strength and what they are known for--a high quality mech SEMI.
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                    • magmonkey
                      Mass Destruction
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 775

                      #55
                      I was not saying cci or palmer ect are rubbish, I own a lot of the pump products that are on the market
                      I was saying the notion of not stepping into a market because it already has quality markers and good customer service is rubbish I truely belive AGD has what it take to compete with any of them as far as quality and service

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                      • EdgePaintball.com
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 4

                        #56
                        AGD

                        Thankyou for responding. Can you please send a dealer app to my email address. Wichita use to be big time mag country because AGD sponsored a pro team in the mid 980's by the name Assassins. Needless to say there are still alot of Automags running around that need parts.

                        Regards,

                        Matt Shook

                        [email protected]

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                        • PBChappy
                          Registered User

                          • Jul 2006
                          • 469

                          #57
                          mags will be around for a long time. I going the the blanding game next weekend and my Karta is going to be my main. my DM7 will sit in the bag until the karta stops working. As i have never seen a mag just stop working that a little oil could not fix i am sure I will be running a mag the whole game and like every game I go to i get question of what is that, who makes that, where did you get it, Stop ramping (love this one as its all Mech hehe). I trying to show them what makes mags great and yes its shots faster then you think. I have converted 2 members of my team to mags and I will keep the name alive as long as I can. And this is how Mags have been around forever. I still remember my lvl 5 mag i paid way to much for, and the trigger work to get out a blazing 6bps and all the cocker guys telling me mags suck. Hehe well guess what I still have my lvl 5 mag to this day and I will never let it go

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                          • RobAGD
                            Cantankerous Administrator

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 2030

                            #58
                            EdgePaintball.com - you are going to have to make the effort on that.

                            Call the office line, and talk to Roman and get the deal app info that way.

                            -Robert
                            Serving AGD customers since 93, wishing I could beat some common since into some of them about 5 hrs later.

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                            • blizpaintball42
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 139

                              #59
                              Originally posted by PBChappy
                              mags will be around for a long time. I going the the blanding game next weekend and my Karta is going to be my main. my DM7 will sit in the bag until the karta stops working. As i have never seen a mag just stop working that a little oil could not fix i am sure I will be running a mag the whole game and like every game I go to i get question of what is that, who makes that, where did you get it, Stop ramping (love this one as its all Mech hehe). I trying to show them what makes mags great and yes its shots faster then you think. I have converted 2 members of my team to mags and I will keep the name alive as long as I can. And this is how Mags have been around forever. I still remember my lvl 5 mag i paid way to much for, and the trigger work to get out a blazing 6bps and all the cocker guys telling me mags suck. Hehe well guess what I still have my lvl 5 mag to this day and I will never let it go

                              I let one of the kids on the young gun team I coached borrow my Emag for a tourny once... He had someone come up to him and ask him what kind of bodykit he had on his Ion.

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                              • ThePixelGuru
                                Guru of Pixels
                                • May 2005
                                • 1461

                                #60
                                Two words.

                                Niche.
                                Market.

                                That is all.

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