Ten Round Feedtube- Concept Drawing

[luke]

you mean of the feedcap?



Here it is on a powerfeed:



but on the powerfeed, it wont hold well. if i face the feedcap downward, and make one quick down and up movement, it will fall off.

(wow, pictures are suppose to be smaller... darn photobucket )

Pictures a perfect, thanks.

Can anyone measure a Phantom tube for me? I need to know what size tube these are intended for. I may be able to adjust the tube size to fit the cap.

[luke]

This is a great idea, luke. I've been thinking about a pistol 'mag, but the main thing that's kept me away is that I don't want to shell out for a ULE body just to put on it. Springfed isn't a necessity, either. Anyway, I'm subscribing to this thread, looks very promising. Any guesses on price, or not at this stage? Cheers!

I'm not sure about the price yet. I've priced them before and always priced them as a one-off job, which meant they were a little spendy, not over the top, but then again I never got the work.

I was just contacted again about one last week, so I got to thinking about them again. The design is changing (in my mind anyway ) which will help bring the price down. This is for the rock-n-cock, I don't have a clue about the spring feed design at this point.

If I feel this is a marketable idea I can price them with production figures and bring the price down. The biggest problem is the price of stainless steel, it VERY, VERY costly. Stainless is a little more than 6 times the cost of aluminum!

[MANN]

to give you an idea about the spring feed. Have you ever seen a "clip" for the PT Extreme pistol? That kind of idea would work wonderful with this. It would also probally not be that hard to make.

On your pic. You would use a powerfeed plug toward the front of the marker (which I am sure is what you were going to do anyway), and on the other side you would place a long grove down the feedtube. You will use that to place a spirng with a cup on the end, and the cup will have a tab that sticks outside of the feedtube and will ride along that groove. At the back of the marker you will have what will appear to be a zlock groove to hold the spring back while loading. The cup can be just a round piece of short cylinder of alum to make it easy to tap for a tab that will reach the outside of the feedtube. Of course the back of the powertube will will be blocked off to keep the spring in. I always thought a screw in plug would work best as cleaning would become a breeze.

I had this idea once upon a time, and ditched it. Somewhere I had found a place for the springs. I will try to dig up that info.

[luke]

I'm beginning to think the spring feed design would cost too much for the numbers that would sell in the AGD market, especially making them out of stainless. A simple feed tube mod to change out the powerfeed bodies to mount an aluminum tube tight to the body sounds more reasonable to me. (?)

[GroovYChickeN 2.o]

I will probably have you mod my pump mag with either design you decide to offer, however I would really like a spring feed design.

Just my $.02

[ThePixelGuru]

I'm beginning to think the spring feed design would cost too much for the numbers that would sell in the AGD market, especially making them out of stainless. A simple feed tube mod to change out the powerfeed bodies to mount an aluminum tube tight to the body sounds more reasonable to me. (?)

Sounds good. I think that the best thing that could come of this would be a good, cheap option for pistol 'mag feedtubes. I'm already keeping my eyes open for another PF body.

[ThePixelGuru]

Bump.

Any updates?

[luke]

No, I haven't really done anything with it. We need to decide what to do about the cap because it will dictate the tube length and or how far the tube sits away from the body. Really that's all that is holding the project back, besides ordering materials.

My idea was to just use a powerfeed plug as a end cap. I know they are a little hard to remove, but i figured a smaller oring would fix that. What do you guys think?

As far as the spring loaded tubes, I think it would be best just to use what is on the market and do a feed tube mod to mount it correctly.

If you have a spring tube that is held on by a set screw, I can do the feedtube mod for it anytime.

[chairman_mao]

I don't see a problem with a powerfeed plug as they normally come. They may be a wee bit difficult to remove but if I understand correctly there will not be a lot of cause to remove them. The rear of the tube will mirror what exists on Phantom feed tube, correct?

[luke]

The rear of the tube will mirror what exists on Phantom feed tube, correct?

I guess you missed my point, I was suggesting that we use a powerfeed plug instead of the Phantom cap at the rear.

[chairman_mao]

I guess you missed my point, I was suggesting that we use a powerfeed plug instead of the Phantom cap at the rear.

AHHHH. It seems to me that would be pretty annoying when in the middle of a gun battle and it came time to reload. What do I do with the p/f cap and the cap to the 10 rd tube while I try and get the balls situated? Not that it can't be worked out but I persoanlly prefer the Phantom end cap. That's not to say I couldn't do that on my own after you have done the body mod.

[RRfireblade]

I guess you missed my point, I was suggesting that we use a powerfeed plug instead of the Phantom cap at the rear.

First off , as a stock class player , great idea. Having seen your SS work I'm sure they will be a steller job.

My suggestions would only be to definately keep the feed tube tight to the body , more SC acceptable and preferable.

And definately use a Phantam 'like' feed cap , almost a must IMO.

Not sure if you got it yet but the Phantom ones fit on a .875 tube but they are plastic and have some variance.

My .02

[nmib]

Luke,

I understand the cost factor for spring feeds might be to costly or time consuming but please leave the option on the table. Id rather ship my body to you and have it done then get it back and wait even longer to have it done by palmers, which inturn will be raked over the coals price wise.

maybe once the design is finished have a half and half? half stockclass have springfeed run? btw i vote for AGD style plug. lets keep'em lookin a mag. you guys that want a phantom style cap also want a ule body... well most of you. let us ss guys have some fun eh?

[RRfireblade]

you guys that want a phantom style cap also want a ule body... well most of you. let us ss guys have some fun eh?

Actually we just shoot more than 10 balls a game you ever try and reload under fire with a plug in the end of your feedtube ?

[chairman_mao]

Actually we just shoot more than 10 balls a game you ever try and reload under fire with a plug in the end of your feedtube ?

Agreed. While I like to think I'm a great shot but the reality is I shoot more than 10 balls in a game. I want to keep the SS body and classic mag look but I am not willing to sacrifice function for form.