What has happened to all the old markers?

[drg]

I beg to differ on several points. First, I just plain enjoy playing with some of my older markers more. There is no new mech marker that is better than Automags. If I want to go with a cocker, I use a 1k Blazer or better yet, a Vector. I have yet to see any marker more consistent in placing paint than my Vectors. Second, my older markers by and large require less maintenance. The only markers I own that require grease are ones I want to be rid of. The need for grease internally is an indication of sloppy production tolerances, and it seems more and more newer markers require grease. Third, with the advent of lowered shooting limits (and my own limitations on fanning a trigger), there is much less of a reason to go with newer markers. Even my blind Excalibur with a stock Nelson board can go 13 bps, close enough to the PSP limit that it's good to go. Fourth, once you figure in the cost of "necessary" upgrades, newer markers aren't all that cheap. Sure, you can pick up a new electro for $200.00 or less, but once you buy a decent barrel, clamping feedneck, better regulator, etc., you have dumped quite a bit into one.

I'm not saying newer markers are bad, but there are drawbacks to them just like almost all things in life.

custar

I don't disagree with some of those statements, and obviously subjective judgments like enjoying playing with older markers is indisputable.

Hoewver when you have to restrict your comparison to "mech markers" you know full well what I mean.

[ultralight]

heck heah doc!

i just picked up my second splatty and i am absolutely thrilled to have a pair.

i haven't gotten rid of any of my old markers either, i've still got the old VM-68 magnum kicking around the gear bag.

from what i've seen, many of those cool older markers are lying in "trade in" boxes behind the counters of older pro shops.

i recently stumbled upon two PTP FX Microcockers and a NIB AGD Z-frame.

[edweird]

I've been toying around with an old VM-65 ive had laying around for a number of years...

been thinking of putting a 13ci tank under a lengthened and "quieted" brass barrel, adding a Qloader directly to the powerfeed, and putting a stock on it for some woodsball fun.

[MoeMag]

I know where they are.

the back room of paintball shops. That bottom corner of the utility room, under the pvc pipe fittings. in the box with old lawnmower parts. still wrapped in t shirt you wore the last time you played. fallen to a state of utter disrepair. Guns that were never picked up for repair, that sat on the wall for so long, they went on the shelf... then into the back room... until nothing but the body was left. bodies with nothing but the goo of grease and duct tape. guns still with 5 balls stuck in the barrels. pump arms that were frozen stiff. piles of co2 tanks painted camo that were attached using a wrench. the 2 ft long feed tubes... cracked. all sitting in 2500 round paint suitcases with the stickers peeling off.

but most of them... in the attic at someones parents house, not to be seen for another 30 years.

[custar]

I don't disagree with some of those statements, and obviously subjective judgments like enjoying playing with older markers is indisputable.

Hoewver when you have to restrict your comparison to "mech markers" you know full well what I mean.

I know what you meant; that's why I included the remarks about my Excalibur and the need for grease in most current markers to make up for sloppy production tolerances. We do agree that a lot of preference is based on subjective feelings, both as to the "feel" as well as the performance

custar

[finnmanpa]

I still have my original Pro/AM... 14" AA and a powerfeed for it. I haven't seen a PF on any of the other Pro series markers before or since. Definitely relieves some of the strain from the 5 lbs of forearm grip.

Wow, my Mini-Lite has a Pro-Team powerfeed. And I thought I was the only one!