Automag, suitable for field use?

[MANN]

FYI on the field mags we replace the barrel detent with a solid all brass piece. This locks the barrel in place and you have to unscrew the main body from the rail to get the barrel out (or rotate it).
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And they work great. one of my loaners has one of these on it.

[Chronobreak]

FYI on the field mags we replace the barrel detent with a solid all brass piece. This locks the barrel in place and you have to unscrew the main body from the rail to get the barrel out (or rotate it).

Fox River Games has used the same set of mag field rentals for over a decade. Most other field rentals have to be replaced every couple years.

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tom, is the brass piece a new setup for the rental mags?

all of ours have and have had as far as i know the adjustable ones.

ide be interested in getting some with our next shipment.

We got ours from Xtreme and are also about 10 years old or more and shoot like new. Wish the other rentals we had held up as well.

Tom,on a sidenote im the manager at Tim's field in STL

[Shane-O-Mac]

Chronobreak:

The fleet that Xtreme had, was a mix of ones with both types of detents. Was confusing at times. And they used Co2 for quite awhile and they really didnt have a problem as long as it was above 50* outside.

[Chronobreak]

Chronobreak:

The fleet that Xtreme had, was a mix of ones with both types of detents. Was confusing at times. And they used Co2 for quite awhile and they really didnt have a problem as long as it was above 50* outside.

i bought one when sal sold some and it came as a vertical front feed, is it safe to assume thats how all were setup?

we have them all on backbottles now and the liquid gets in alot easier.

[WalkingTarget]

Let me put it this way:

i've been considering opening up a field here in ontario, and if i were to do so tomorrow, i'd send an email to AGD to get a quote on a fleet of rental mags.

no way, no how would i ever use an M98 or any tippmann as a rental, it's either Mags or Mokals.

[questionful]

Compared to the unidentifiable stacked tube blowbacks my local indoor field uses as rentals, classic mags would be SO much better. Do "field mags" have foregrips?

[RenegadeSniper]

for most people its hard to shortroke, but alot of people that are the rental players are use to the tippman triggers where you dont have to pull and release and they try to quickly snap the trigger or halfway pull it instead of fully back and fully releasing it.

the barrels can be tightened in with the nubbin, though some are still gonna be loose as the nubbins only tighten so much

the side feed itself wont break, its the elbows that do. ULE's would be the way to go to solve the abrrel and feedneck problems but theyr too pricey for rental equipment.

even in warm temps the valve will freeze up pretty fast 10-15 shots or less, add to the fact people are gonna be holding the guns down alot feeding liquid into the guns.

I am using hps as stated earlier.

--we rebuild them all every year with quick inspections or repairs as needed.

You keep ref

[smilestyler]

Let me put it this way:

i've been considering opening up a field here in ontario, and if i were to do so tomorrow, i'd send an email to AGD to get a quote on a fleet of rental mags.

no way, no how would i ever use an M98 or any tippmann as a rental, it's either Mags or Mokals.

You can't buy "rental" mags anymore from AGD, only the classics that are on their web site. There are fields out there that will sell their old ones to purchase something else (their mistake) if you can find them.

The twist lock pins are not a big issue. I have the solid ones in our rentals and they are a pain to clean if you have a batch of bad paint. I am considering switching them all out for the adjustable ones so that I can clean the barrel properly on the field. If you instuct renters, I can't see them 'twisting the barrel' as a problem.

You can buy better quality elbows, and they work awesome with the standard feed if you hose clamp them on. (no more dumped hoppers or openings for dirt to get in)

Ever look at a rental Tippman after a year of use. They look totally beat. They may work great, but they look aweful. Mags can take a beating and never show (aside from the barrel that can scratch)

[WalkingTarget]

heh, i'd order up 30 classic mags and replace the frikken twistlock pin at that point, mags kick some serious butt and wouldn't consider anything else if i had the option.

[PhoenixWolf]

Honestly, the Mags are going to save you money in the long run. It's not uncommon to find heavily used Automags working for more than 10 years. People have even bought former rental Mags after the field was done with them and used them for personal use, did a 5-minute valve rebuild, and they were good as new. It's not some gun like a rental Piranha or Spyder where you use it for a year, it's worn out, and you replace it. This is something you keep on using and it keeps on working.

If a Tippmann goes down, it's a 20-30 minute fix at least. You have to remove 8 or 10 screws, open up the clamshells while ensuring springloaded parts don't go flying, and fix whatever's broken. The valve isn't really user-serviceable. And Spyder-type guns are a whole different problem. The stacked blowback action suffers significant extra stress than an inline blowback or blowforward design, and this makes them unsuitable for long-term use. Basically, after a year or so of hard field use the entire gun will be worn out.

If an Automag goes down, it's a 5 minute fix even if you have to refurbish the entire valve. A set of o-ring picks is all you really need. There's really not much that can go wrong with one. And they don't wear out like blowbacks do. They last a LOT longer, and repairs are simpler and easier. They're just better guns. You'll get a LOT more life out of them than anything else.

[angrysasquatch]

Let me put it this way:

i've been considering opening up a field here in ontario, and if i were to do so tomorrow, i'd send an email to AGD to get a quote on a fleet of rental mags.

no way, no how would i ever use an M98 or any tippmann as a rental, it's either Mags or Mokals.

Make the paint cheaper than Wasaga, and I'm there

[AltogetherAndrews]

Well, roughly what would a fleet of rentals cost? We'll be looking to add to our arsenal in the next year (and likely transfer the current brand for use as remote rentals), but not within the time limits given on the reseller form (90 days, is it?). I assume I won't get an answer here though, but I'd be interested to know roughly what it'd run us.

[Chronobreak]

field pricing wasnt terrible if i recall but i dont have numbers readily available.

i do recall there is also price breaks if you order X amount of markers

[AltogetherAndrews]

Do you know who I should contact that to find this out? Would AGD be likely to give this information out to someone who doesn't actually have a reseller account?

[Chronobreak]

AGD can tell ya.

but i dont know what rules they have as far as selling things, i would assume if you could prove you had a licensed and insured field/facility it wouldnt be a problem.

ive never set an account up with AGD myself so i dont know