This Is Hot!!!!

[halB]

"The south shall rise again."

Didn't hurricane katrina kinda put an end to that?

[mag79]

South gonna rise again!!

I am the Yankee in the south keeping everyone in line, including you puckncat

[mag79]

btw...it does look pritty cool

[OneUp]

depends on if you see hate or heritage... on the previos post.

i see heritage

I see heritage too: a hateful heritage.

The Germans can't get away with using the Swastika as a symbol of heritage.

The southern states could always choose a less offensive symbol to represent their heritage but they never do.

[pmstc]

I see heritage too: a hateful heritage.

The Germans can't get away with using the Swastika as a symbol of heritage.

The southern states could always choose a less offensive symbol to represent their heritage but they never do.

You need to brush up on your civil war history buddy.

[Storminnorman]

I like how everyone sees the confederate flag and assumes it stands for hatred or racism. I think we all can agree that to hate everyone equally no matter if they are black, white, gold, brown, blue, and even red. Belief me when I say this, there are A holes in every race and color so spread the hate equally. This would look better on my Rainmaker anyways.

[babyface]

that is proably one of the hotttttttest guns ive ever seen!

[mpsd]

A silly question from a non-american

Sorry to ask that guys but why is the confederate flag considered offensive? I haven't studied much of the american civil war to know this. Can anyone enlighten me, please?

[Sumthinwicked]

the point of the war was over slavery and if by that u wanted the south to win you wanted certain people pickin cotten in the fields thats why its rasist i had to correct my gf who wanted to wear southern pride which by default = apporval of slavery

[mpsd]

the point of the war was over slavery and if by that u wanted the south to win you wanted certain people pickin cotten in the fields thats why its rasist i had to correct my gf who wanted to wear southern pride which by default = apporval of slavery

OK... Now I see it. So the confederate flag was the southern one and it was carried by the states that supported slavery, right? And then the north won the war, freeing the slaves, uniting the country and the northern flag with stars and stripes became the country's flag? Is that it? Living and learning... Thanks!

[Sumthinwicked]

bingo brotha

[mpsd]

Thanks!!! Quickest lesson on american history ever!!!

Oh, and yes, it is offensive.

[punkncat]

the point of the war was over slavery and if by that u wanted the south to win you wanted certain people pickin cotten in the fields thats why its rasist i had to correct my gf who wanted to wear southern pride which by default = apporval of slavery

NO NO NO NO!!!!!

This is so incorrect as to be offensive to me.

Allow me to attempt to set a few things straight. I apologize if this has already been addressed, I didn't make it past this post.

Before the civil war happened the southern states were loosing power and influence in the government that was centralizing. These states wanted more direct control over the laws, taxes, etc. and to be more self governing than to have a centralized government making rules for all rather than to benifit specific areas. This belief in states rights and the loss thereof was going to severly hurt the south as most of the other states were much more industrial than agricultural. These states rather than have their rights, taxes and laws changed by a majority of industial states who would change things to their benifit secceeded from that union in order to form their own government.

Now as to slavery, it was already on the table, even within the south to be dissolved. Mind you there was a great deal of resistance by some who had a lot of money tied up in property. But even they realized that in reality it was uneconomically feasible. Think of it like this. Slaves were a serious investment. As such it was of the intrest of slave owners to take care of and keep this property healty and productive. On the other hand, low payed labor in the north was much more cost effective. There was a readily available and abundant source of workers coming in from the UK and other places abroad as a result of famine, unrest and many other factors. All that had to be done for them was to provide a wage, which was very low, and they had to worry about their own food, clothing, health etc. Slaves on the other hand being a large investment in addition to having to pay the cost to house, feed, clothe, and keep healty and productive.
At the time there was a strong abolotionist movement in place and it was centered in the north, although it was supported by many in the south as well. When the war broke out, dealing with becoming a new country, starting its own economy, money, fighting a war, etc. the south had to shelve moving forward with this change. The abolishionists as well as the north used this to thier advantage in many ways. In stead of fighting to force the people that wanted out of the union due to being treated politically unfairly, it became a higher and more noble cause. They were fighting to free a people.
Well since history is written by the victors, the south became the evil oppressors. Never mind that slavery was legal all over the country for a long time and just very recently before made unpopular in unagricultural areas where cheaper more affordable labor was available in the form of immigrants.
So after the war, does anyone actually discuss what Lincoln wanted to do with all the freed slaves? Anyone? He wanted them all shipped back to Africa. No one ever discusses that do they?

(There was really much more involved but I cannot type all that....this is highly summarized.)

So what was really the death blow is that the highly racist organization of people known as the Ku Klux Klan used the Confederate battle flag as a rally flag and misrepresented it. Lets not mention that the KKK was one of the biggest organizations in the nation at one point, not just the south.
After that, anti segregation causes once again misrepresented the flag by placing it in several southern states official status as a symbol of thier displeasure with that program.

So to people who know the real history and meaning of that great and beautiful flag, it does represent a proud heritage. To the uninformed it represents what they have been told to feel about it.

[Sumthinwicked]

or rasism... thats what we in the north call it and they think they can raise again! you never rose in the last TRY was in a war that was lost LONG ago and im going by what i learned in SCHOOL i know its a big word but dont tell me im not informed on any matter unless you can back it up

[Sumthinwicked]

either way theyre were many issues that were the cause of that war like wanting to susceed and run themselves money of course a way of life but hey slavery was a MAJOR factor in why WE went to war which is why the REBLEL its even called rebel is looked down upon



but yea the gun in question is hot looking although not a great statement it makes////