N20 Cartidges

[Geronimo7]

Any one know if these will work in place of CO2 cartidges

http://www.target.com/Liss-N2O-Chargers-50-Pack/dp/B0002PW6BO/ref=sc_ri_4/602-9675644-7119804

[punkncat]

No, but you will be able to do whippits with your marker....lol

waa waa waa

[Geronimo7]

Ha ha, ya I wasn't to sure thought i would ask here before i bought some. Do you know why ?

[michbich]

"Nitrous oxide (also known as laughing gas) is a chemical compound with the chemical formula N2O. At room temperature, it is a colorless non-flammable gas, with a pleasant, slightly sweet odor and taste. It is used in surgery and dentistry for its anesthetic and analgesic effects. It is commonly known as "laughing gas" due to the euphoric effects of inhaling it, a property that has led to its non-medical use as an inhalant drug. It is also used in motor racing as an oxidizer to increase the power output of engines."

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N2o

I looked arround, i couldn't find the pressure of those 12grams.

Edit: they seem to be 8 grams

[Draken]

Well, after some really quick research, the 8 gram N2O carts are filled to 900 PSI...don't know what kind of drop off you would get though, or what kind of shot count, or even if they are long enough to fit in most 12gram markers...get some and let us know how they work.

[thejere]

More of an issue of shots per cartridge than anything else I'd imagine. CO2 twelve grams work well because CO2 is liquid at about room temp and 800 psi. Every gram of liquid gives you several grams of air at about 800 psi (these numbers aren't quite right because my thermo book isn't handy). N2O Is going to be all gas so you might get 2-3 shots assuming the cartridges are at 800 psi.

[Hilltop Customs]

More of an issue of shots per cartridge than anything else I'd imagine. CO2 twelve grams work well because CO2 is liquid at about room temp and 800 psi. Every gram of liquid gives you several grams of air at about 800 psi (these numbers aren't quite right because my thermo book isn't handy). N2O Is going to be all gas so you might get 2-3 shots assuming the cartridges are at 800 psi.

12grams of co2 liquid will still be 12grams of gas once it is allowed to boil off....its only the state thats changing nothing else.

n2o becomes liquid at 850psi @20degrees C so there could be liquid in there. But just like co2, when n2o goes from liquid to gas it will absorb energy(cool) and cause similar freezing problems as co2 does.

but you are right about shots per cartridge....12g of co2 is going to produce more gas at 800psi than 8g of n2o.

[craltal]

I don't know about where you live, but possession of more than a few of these cannisters could be a class 3 felony without the proper licensing, at least here in Florida...

(I read a news story about a woman arrested under that law in the paper this morning)

[Old School 626]

"Nitrous oxide (also known as laughing gas) is a chemical compound with the chemical formula N2O. At room temperature, it is a colorless non-flammable gas, with a pleasant, slightly sweet odor and taste. It is used in surgery and dentistry for its anesthetic and analgesic effects. It is commonly known as "laughing gas" due to the euphoric effects of inhaling it, a property that has led to its non-medical use as an inhalant drug. It is also used in motor racing as an oxidizer to increase the power output of engines."

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N2o

I looked arround, i couldn't find the pressure of those 12grams.

Edit: they seem to be 8 grams

Euphoric effects.....I just want to be blissed out the next time I hear "SNAKE 1! SNAKE1!"

[michbich]

I don't know about where you live, but possession of more than a few of these cannisters could be a class 3 felony without the proper licensing, at least here in Florida...

(I read a news story about a woman arrested under that law in the paper this morning)

LOL, charged for whip cream.

It is an anesthetic none the less. Used improperly, it becomes a drug(blocks nervous system impulses from reaching the brain). Laughing gaz is explosive and if used in a large enough dose, can be lethal. But everything is lethal these days, even water.

What's my point...i don't know anymore, but i want some.

[cyrus-the-virus]

I don't know about where you live, but possession of more than a few of these cannisters could be a class 3 felony without the proper licensing, at least here in Florida...

(I read a news story about a woman arrested under that law in the paper this morning)

Maybe when you're carring hundreds or more. 50 shouldn't be a problem.

[vmaxnick]

N0s

Please don't
N20 supports combustion violently, it would be like using oxygen in your marker
any friction or even some oil in your ASA could cause combustion!
If you do it, post a video!

[cyrus-the-virus]

Please don't
N20 supports combustion violently, it would be like using oxygen in your marker
any friction or even some oil in your ASA could cause combustion!
If you do it, post a video!

Considering it's only pressured too 900 PSI(as someone else stated) wouldn't most marker(mags especially) be exploding constantly?

Just sayin.

[ThePixelGuru]

That's N2O, two nitrogen atoms and an oxygen atom. You're looking for N, which is pure nitrogen.

Even then, CO2 regulates itself by turning to liquid at roughly 800psi, and air/nitrogen doesn't. To get a useful charge, you'd have to pressurize these cartridges to 3000+ psi (think HPA), and then you'd have to put a regulator on the cartridges (hah!) or have your pistol/pump/whatever be able to handle 3000psi unregulated. Unless you're using a pumpmag, that won't be the case.

[Hilltop Customs]

Please don't
N20 is very flammable, it would be like using a mixture of oxygen and propane in your marker
any friction or even some oil in your ASA could cause combustion!
If you do it, post a video!

n2o, just like pure oxygen, are not flammable. It is an oxidizer, meaning that it will speed up a combustion reaction. Mixed with oil it increases the possability of an fire or explosion, but it would be very unlikely.

edit.....meant to say it would very unlikely in a maker. Now if you dumped oil down the asa, aired up with n2o and shot at an open flame(or had a bolt that fit extremely tight in the barrel).