barrel kits

[michbich]

Where's my popcorn??? LOL I'm not getting into this one, but i sure as hell will watch this thread.

EDIT:
Darn, you had to edit it.
About how they make the inserts. I don't know how they make them. As a machinist, and if i had to produce thousands, i would order extruded tubing with a little meat.

If that's with SS inserts. I would bore the ouside, mill them to length (perp to the bore) and grind the outside with a cylindrical surface grinder.

If it were alu. I would probably ream the inside, mill them to length (perp to the ream) and turn the outside on the lath.

Granted, with insert barrels, you have a bigger addition of tolerance issues: Inside of the barrel where the inserts are, the outside of insert and inside of insert. They all have to be concentric compared to 1 piece barrels where you only need the inside of the barrel.

Producing them from billet is out of the question though. There would simply be too much waste.

[Sumthinwicked]

First off SUMTHINWICKED is spelled for the slow or people like you , :something wicked" is how it is spelt.. Secondly I don't use periods and the such because I am lazy not stupid ... Ty very much. Thirdly as to the rotating of inserts they dont move to prove this you can see the numbers in the window (little cut hole in the back) so go figure that one out buddy. As to the TROLLING go look up at the top of the post bud I posted before you,... Of course I will close with " so dont drag your teeth sweetheart ba bye dont play with the big dog unless you have teeth.... On a last note I AM WHITE and listen to metal (you are a rasist pig to assume anything by the spelling of my name ) I am also named SUMTHINWICKED to honor a band I like.

[Sumthinwicked]

Where's my popcorn??? LOL I'm not getting into this one, but i sure as hell will watch this thread.

i love yea man

[Sumthinwicked]

I refuse to fight like children and clutter this thread sorry I am above that today, but if you would like to continue this useless struggle take it to a pm with me I will play with you all day.

[halB]

On a last note I AM WHITE and listen to metal (you are a rasist pig to assume anything by the spelling of my name ) I am also named SUMTHINWICKED to honor a band I like.

Ummm... This is not addressed to this monkey here - but does anyone else think it is absurdly racist that this man here thinks that it's racist for me to say he listens to rap? I mean, we all saw how I was only attempting to make a clever joke. And sorry "summat" but I don't know of any metal songs that have grammar in the title - I also didn't say that because of your name, I said it because you posted some unintelligible drivel(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/drivel) that lacked grammar. And what about his thinking that his being white precludes (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/precludes) him from listening to rap?

I refuse to fight like children

Actually, I'm going to try to rise above you. Here are the reasons why I think the CP barrels are better, listed for your puny brain's convenience.

1) Solid, one piece construction - which means
a) "Control bore" (which shall hereafter be the designation for the part of the barrel that first touches the paintball) can't rotate
b) Control bore cannot move linearly
c) Control bore will ALWAYS line up perfectly with the gun's inner diameter.
d) Control bore CANNOT be moved, influenced, wiggled, shaken, vibrated, or in any other way "touched" by the firing of the gun.
e) Control bore cannot be damaged easily by minor compression - unlike tiny thin inserts. Even if no damage is visible to an insert, it could still influence the paintball's flight because we are talking about thousandths of an inch.
f) I'm pretty sure you can mill metal more precisely if you are milling it out of a solid block vs a thin strip of metal. I'm not sure, but I think the freak bores are rolled too, not drilled out.
2) CP has always created a VERY high quality product. My 8-10 year old CP barrel for my spyder still has the same shine to it. There is no flaking of the anno. There are very few scratches and no deep ones. And I have never kept it in a sock or case or anything.
3) If CP didn't create such high quality products, then you wouldn't see their regs on every gun. Oh... what's that... SP regs are no longer looked at highly? OMG! WHAT A SHOCK! Too bad CP is STILL a highly respected company in every endeavor they undertake.

So there, don't flame me, don't belittle my opinion as stupid. Don't tell me some pointless story about what happened to you when you walked into a store 2 years ago. Argue on these 9 points. Let me give you a tip - F and 3 are my weakest points. Practice arguing on those while the big boys can try to pick apart my other 7 points.

Answer them. Answer them all. You are running away and everyone knows it.

[Sumthinwicked]

i will let Adam Gardner sell the freak to you heres a link with LOADS of info although speed-reading it I didn't see weather (sp) they are rolled or drilled. From my multi-sets I have never seen a seam so I'm not sure. http://www.paintballtimes.com/Printer.asp?ID=71 and www.smartparts.com and a good tool for your own use is www.pbreview.com.

[Sumthinwicked]

This is not addressed to this monkey here so now i am a monkey ?

[Sumthinwicked]

hal i want you ro reread my origional post (slowly as to my typing as you can see is cruddy LOL ).... i wasnt slamming you i said shens to your opinion and the rest was my reply to the woman pushing barrels that in my opinion as a CLERK WHO SOLD THEM MYSELF a lower level barrel 35 dollars for most cps no thte 2 pieces so they were a tad bit more... Now they make good regs i will bow to that fact. I personally dislike the quality of they're barrels in my opinion i would take stock verse cp ANY DAY

as to your controlled bore are all mags the same exact tolerances ? if that is the case then a lvl 10 wouldnt have 10 carriers (go with me on this) so unless they threads on the barrel were made in a mold as to being as close to an exact copy as possible and not turned off of a lathe theyre will probably have differant tollerances (add human mistakes, temp differances in metals from day to day, and computer error even if off by a lil makes a differance things like tooling wearing out and the such) mind you in the .0001 tolerances theyre still will be differances in metal temps and the such from day to day (most poeple know some cocker barrels fit and some wont on theyre guns common knowlage so i dont believe they are as PERFECT like you think as not much in this world is or we would be both correct

[garbageman705]

I have a CP kit, I like my CP kit. CP makes a lot of colors. It shoots good and feels solid. It's not that much more than a full Freak kit and it's a lot less than a Dye kit. Word on the CP kit.

[pk5]

lolz

slow down, i ran out of popcorn

Sheesshh all the guy ask for was a simple question, and somehow it manage to turn into a vs. thread. If you like to be fanboy that much, go to pbn, more people will be glad to join you there.

Not taking either side, but sheeshhh you guy swear that your barrel is the best in the world and nothing can compare to it..........

[211]

Ive got a Phat 9 piece pro kit (6 bases 3 tips)
I love it, unfortunately they were made by ACI whose no longer in business, so they might be hard to find

I also use an Evil pipe kit (5 bases 1 tip)
I love it, you can find a pipe kit all over, price isnt to bad and it even comes in a protective case

Also have an old Empire kit (5 bases 3 tips)
I love it

Ive liked every barrel kit Ive shot (when properly matched to the paint)
although I cant shoot a freak, being close to anything SP gives me a horrible rash

[Sumthinwicked]

pipes r nice btw

[paintball72]

ok thanks a bunch guys.

[Sumthinwicked]

sorry about the rants above but hopefully the pbreview will be more of use to you then our warped opinions

[Looper]

Can anyone speak of these? Titanium Barrel Kit

Is the price directly connected to hype or are they really worth the dollar they are charging?

I've been toying with the idea of selling my SS freak kit and barrels, Evil Pipe kit, 7 piece Powerlyte Scepter Kit and DW Fibur (DW is actually spoken for) to pool some fundage together and buy the Titanium Kit but would like to have somebody vouch for it before I go through all the effort of BST...

Mann... you out there.... would I be disappointed?