Autococker KO'd by AGD !

[LK-13]

WOW!! I wonder how Bud feels....

And another historic icon of the paintball world passes into the night. It is especially ironic that the cocker disappeared before the mag. So I have to bring up some statements made a couple years back.

When all the legal and other stuff was going down, the subject of paintballs future came up. Many on this forum believed that it wouldn't matter, paintball would go on with new manufacturers/designs taking the place of the old. They talked about it as if "thats the way it has always been". So I ask you now in the shadow of the cocker and Indian Creek, do you still feel that way?

The one and now only,

AGD

Tom,
don't forget that Glenn and Craig are still standing right there with you.
BTW,
have you heard about my Mag based projects?
building 13 guns, all MAG based, most wood stocked, at least 2 double barreled.
(or would that be 4? uh... 2x2 maybe?)
you guys are going to plotz when you see these!
just wish i had a better place to work in...
oh well all in good time i guess.

[BigEvil]

Paintball is nothing more than a fashion show when it comes to new equipment. Cockers arent cool anymore. Period.

JT bought WGP thinking that they had a cornerstone to build one, when in fact it was already starting to show signs of decline.

It didn't help them that they turned them into crap, thats for sure.

[drg]

If you think AGD had anything to do with this, you are an idiot.

[Geronimo7]

^

seriously though, does this mean "autococker threading" becomes "agd threading"

[Ninjeff]

^

seriously though, does this mean "autococker threading" becomes "agd threading"

[Dewok82]

Goodnight, sweet prince.

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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/dewok82/ByeBye.jpg

oh ill take that gun!


oh the mag cocker wars.........when paintball had to much mystery

to know then what i know now

[PanzerGen]

In terms of the old mag/cocker wars, yeah this was a "victory." Something called a pyrrhic victory. So now the cocker is gone and automags/palmers are only a niche guns.... yeah. It is kind of ironic that the cocker went first though considering all the nasty retoric about mags from the more "mainstream" groups.

[KevinA]

This makes me sad, as I enjoy both mags, and cockers equally.

[drg]

In terms of the old mag/cocker wars, yeah this was a "victory." Something called a pyrrhic victory. So now the cocker is gone and automags/palmers are only a niche guns.... yeah. It is kind of ironic that the cocker went first though considering all the nasty retoric about mags from the more "mainstream" groups.

Rhetoric shmetoric. This has nothing to do with the relative merits of the products, and everything to do with business models of the companies producing them.

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Rhetoric shmetoric. This has nothing to do with the relative merits of the products, and everything to do with business models of the companies producing them.

just to think if all the innovations that the mags and cockers late in its life were available during their hight of popularity.......electro would not of been adopted as widely

[Maghog]

In all of the chapters and twisted tales that have come about over the last few years, this is truly one of the most stunning. Just seeing it end like this after nearly twenty years is something I'd have never imagined.

Remember when the only choice was either the cocker or the mag?
Everything else was inferior.
When the angel arrived, things changed.
The cocker stayed mechanical while the AGD went for the electronic market.
The E-mag was judged by its looks and not by its performance, leaving it widely untouched and undiscovered.
WGP marketed fiercely, and it seemed to really pay off...suddenly the cocker was more popular than ever and the mag fell by the wayside despite some really innovative new products and upgrades.
Litigation and consolidation forced the two companies along very different paths that lead to where we are now.
The cocker's popularity seems to have been what did it in now. After going from the mighty orracle series to the lowly trilogy collection, combined with a flooded market, WGP tanked. Now the cocker is being discontinued? Wow!
AGD's strategy of pulling back and focusing on its roots is proving to be more and more brilliant all the time. I think we're going to see more companies fold as time goes on, and I can only hope that AGD has the necessary resources to tough it out, because in the end, they're going to remain the one high quality piece of equipment that is available.
Thankfully, there are enough cockers out there that the mag-cocker war will never really have to end. I wouldn't even say that the mag has "won" by any means, but it feels really good to see them still standing after all that paintball has gone through.
AGD FOREVER!
Dan@Triggernomics

[Freebird]

personnaly... im not a fan of cockers but..

Ive met bud he's a friend of the local field owners. It kinda sucks to see another one of the "oldschool" guys loose out to the communist giants that are now modern paintball. The mag/cocker wars? Yes they were battles but what is a battle with no competition. The strive that mag owners took to beat out cocker owners, and cocker owners to beat out mags just drove companies to produce more products for each brand. Competition is good for business. Now im not saying "monopoly" type competition like lets safely say smart parts. But the old mag vs. cocker war was very good for the industry. It hasen't been the same in the past few years but we can all sit back and think, Wow remember when the emag came out...... then remember when the First electro cocker came out and so on and so forth.


just my .02

kinda makes me sad to see that the tree of paintball is slowly leaving the roots that made it grow tall.


^that kinda sounded like a statement somone on drugs would say.... im not i swear...

[insixdays777]

I am just not a cocker guy. 12 years playing...I have owned many. Just not for me.

However this is very sad day. Another founder of this great sport is dead. RIP.

[KevinA]

Why the hell would we celebrate such a storied pb company dumping a such an iconic brand? Am I the only person who doesn't want a paintball world made up only of Ions, Egos, and DMs?

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