What's the CF stand for? Also, ever replace a sear?

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  • aqua_scummm
    matthewpace.blogspot.com
    • Oct 2006
    • 185

    #1

    What's the CF stand for? Also, ever replace a sear?

    So what's the CF in all the classic valve serial numbers I've owned stand for?

    Another random question: Have you ever had to replace your mags sear or bolt? Hyperframe users excluded?

    How many cases of paint, or other measure of wear, did you go through before replacing the sear?


    Just kinda curious.
  • grEnAlEins
    dazed and confused
    • Jul 2002
    • 2864

    #2
    I have never needed to replace either part. I have had one mag for 6+ years now and it shoots like a champ. It just needs a drop of oil once in a while.

    I do not recall what the CF stands for. I used to think it stood for Center Feed, back when the center feed and no rise bodies were hot. I am not sure that that is the case though.
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    • sithos
      Human Bunker
      • Oct 2002
      • 543

      #3
      CF = centerfeed. when such a thing was new and special.
      I miss my black teflon CF minimag. That thing never let me down.
      I still believe the height of the feedneck was tom's way of *****slapping anyone who didn't own a warp feed.

      Tom: "What, you don't want a warp feed? Fine then. Enjoy your 8 inch tall feedneck!"
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      • aqua_scummm
        matthewpace.blogspot.com
        • Oct 2006
        • 185

        #4
        my powerfeed mag has a CF serial, as did my straight right feed. My field rental valve was either CF or CN I believe...


        And I've never had to replace the sear or bolt either, but I used to buy/sell new mags somewhat often. I now have one I know I won't sell, and don't expect to have to replace it any time soon, but am kinda curious when I should have to replace it...

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        • Stayhuge
          Registered User

          • Aug 2007
          • 1590

          #5
          Originally posted by sithos
          I still believe the height of the feedneck was tom's way of *****slapping anyone who didn't own a warp feed.

          Tom: "What, you don't want a warp feed? Fine then. Enjoy your 8 inch tall feedneck!"
          I was under the impression that the tall feedneck was pre-electronic hopper days. It was a way for the balls to feed easier. There would be 4-5 already lined up. Then if there was a jam, it would most likely unjam after a few shots, which were lined up in the long feedneck. Not a bad idea, except that the hopper sitting a foot high, was a pretty big target, LOL

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          • aqua_scummm
            matthewpace.blogspot.com
            • Oct 2006
            • 185

            #6
            Originally posted by Stayhuge
            I was under the impression that the tall feedneck was pre-electronic hopper days. It was a way for the balls to feed easier. There would be 4-5 already lined up. Then if there was a jam, it would most likely unjam after a few shots, which were lined up in the long feedneck. Not a bad idea, except that the hopper sitting a foot high, was a pretty big target, LOL
            Yeah, a large ballsack, excuse me, ballstack definitely helps with gravity feed, and even when electronic loaders did show up, a large ball stack is nice with an agitated hopper, because even they could slow down or skip a ball.

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            • warbeak2099
              That is my foot!
              • Jan 2004
              • 4447

              #7
              It stands for "Centerfire" to signify that you have a Centerfire back half.
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              • aqua_scummm
                matthewpace.blogspot.com
                • Oct 2006
                • 185

                #8
                Originally posted by warbeak2099
                It stands for "Centerfire" to signify that you have a Centerfire back half.
                What would have been the alternative, out of curiosity?

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                • warbeak2099
                  That is my foot!
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4447

                  #9
                  There are also valves with the "8-hole" mod. They send air from the AIR to the front half of the valve through venturi-like ports instead of a central hole.
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                  • questionful
                    LNIB
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1416

                    #10

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                    • aqua_scummm
                      matthewpace.blogspot.com
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 185

                      #11
                      Originally posted by warbeak2099
                      There are also valves with the "8-hole" mod. They send air from the AIR to the front half of the valve through venturi-like ports instead of a central hole.
                      Wasn't that because the two holes (one on each half) that AREN'T the center hole didn't line up???

                      Dunno, thought ALL mags sent air from the front to the back through the center, and from the back to the front after regulation through the side hole...

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                      • warbeak2099
                        That is my foot!
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4447

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aqua_scummm
                        Wasn't that because the two holes (one on each half) that AREN'T the center hole didn't line up???

                        Dunno, thought ALL mags sent air from the front to the back through the center, and from the back to the front after regulation through the side hole...
                        I may be mistaken about that, but I do know that the CF stands for Centerfire.
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                        • questionful
                          LNIB
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1416

                          #13
                          Originally posted by warbeak2099
                          I may be mistaken about that, but I do know that the CF stands for Centerfire.
                          How do you know that?

                          And yeah, regulated air does not flow through the center. And it doesn't matter if the holes don't line up, there's a space for the air to flow, and AGD said the 6/8 hole mod doesn't do anything. Don't remember where I read that, though.

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                          • dave p
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 184

                            #14
                            i think it stands for the ones that started coming with the carbon fiber grip frames, before that the grip was aluminum and made by wgp if im not mistaken

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                            • aqua_scummm
                              matthewpace.blogspot.com
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 185

                              #15
                              maybe I'll just call AGD tomorrow

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