has anyone patented the wheel ????
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WTF i going give SP a new start and buy a ion for backup gun now i see this ****
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instead of a hand they should use a MAUL!Originally posted by pyrodragon
The patent office and judicial system need to start tightening the reigns on these absurd requests.
Waste of tax payers money!Comment
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"The paintball gun kit can include, for example, a body, a grip, and a pneumatic assembly. Various numbers and arrangements of components are contemplated. Various styles, materials, and colors of paintball gun components can also be provided consistent with the principles of the present invention."
So what i get from that is ANY aftermarket parts is not able to be sold with out there permision? You will have to buy each parts seperatly???? They can kiss me where the sun dont shine, the money greedy/ power hungry BLEEP BEEP BLEEP BEEP...
Sorry for the rant but that there is just plain stupid..... It sad that they found yet another way to ruin the sport even further....
Zero Gravity Customs
Play hard or go home......
My feedback
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129891Comment
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lets sink to their level. lets patent a device that has the sole purpose of holding various objects related to a paintball gun that is distributed to the public....... it consists of 4 sides, a bottom and a lid. the interior has various materials to hold the objects. all pieces would be covered under any color ever known and yet to be known and any material known to man.
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I don't think this will help SP at all. I think they just shot themselves in the foot.Comment
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Jesus tap dancing christ....
can this be considered a form of industral terrorism?Comment
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i think its not so much a patent on parts, but a patenet on selling a paintball gun erector set. get what im sayin?
a company cant sell a paintball gun that i have to put together myself.
thats how i see it, either way i hope billy gardener gets a d.w.i.Comment
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yea I think your right. The wording of the patent leans toward a 100% complete marker that is just unassembled; nothing to do with purchasing individual parts. Its more a cost cutting measure than anything else. If they can sell unassembled guns, they dont have to pay someone to assemble them. Also since they have the patent on it, if people start buying these unassembled guns, then SP are the only ones capable of taking this price reduction step.Originally posted by seekandestroy78
I really doubt a paintball gun kit would sell well, unless start offering made to order paintball guns. Having a variety of bolts/boards/bodies/regs to choose from....the consumer selects the parts they want, purchases the gun and is sent the unassembled "kit". Oh no, next they will patent the made to order paintball gun.
Either way, I dont believe parents would buy thier kids a paintball gun kit(a huge market for paintball), and I dont believe people in general would want a kit.Comment
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after thinking about this a little , wouldn't this open them up to lawsuits , like this :
Little Joey's dad buys a kit & "assemblies" it , screws a bottle on it , turns the air on & kabluie it explodes
It seems to me like this would be a common scenario , with people that "think" they know everything & with all the lawyers out there looking for work , it probley wouldn't take long to sue ** into bankrupcyComment
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How soon before companies have to ad more tracking to online stores...
Say I wanted to "kit" a mag or a cocker (i.e. buy all the parts that I like and assemble it myself) said internet store would now be in violation of that patent and would be held liable.
I "kit" computers for personal use, if say....dell patented this idea for computer hardware how many lawsuits would newegg.com or tigerdirect.com have on their doorstep?
Am I going to have to buy a body from store A, bolt from store B, valve from store C, springs from store D...etc just to not pay SP if I wanted to build a mag/cocker/intimidator (all guns that can be easily kit-ed) myself?Comment
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Kinda old news...
Smart Parts did this in order to allow them to sell guns in countries with strict firearms laws...where it is oftentimes (one word or two?) illegal to sell a paintball gun in functioning form, but perfectly legal to sell it as a kit of parts one must assemble.
This in essence monopolizes their product in that country.
Another smart business move from an international standpoint.
/let the flames beginComment
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If they were doing this to sell guns in other countries why bother with a US patent? Our patents are not valid in other countries.
Its not adding up...
AGDsigpicComment
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But with almost all major gun manufacturers based in the U.S...Originally posted by AGD
WDP and Mac Dev don't make a comparable product (to the ion) that they can market overseas.Comment
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you can buy all the parts you want from a single store and this patnet will have no impact. The kit will be a single UPC/box. THe kit wil be one item to purchase that has all parts included.Originally posted by B-Pow
If somehow they tried to go after stores for selling all the parts to make a marker, it would have to be a case by case basis.....and would be way to time consuming and expensive for their benifit.
I still say its just another cost cutting measure....labor is a major determining factor in producing something. With the "kits" SP can mass produce parts, throw them in boxes and be done; whereas before they had to pay someone to assemble each marker.(ive never seen their production line, but I doubt they have invested in robots for assembly.....with the quantities produced in paintball a fully automated line is probably not worth it)
Everything SP does is to reduce cost, that way they can sell "competing" markers at lower prices and make a higher profit margin than competitors.....its business.
*edit* forgot to say the using the "kit" to get past laws is also a very valid point too....but I'm not failure with international firearms laws.Comment
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