double barreled Mags

[SR_matt]

I think double barreled stuff only has a point past being awesome if the two valves fire alternatingly. Then you can have a real 60BPS beast instead of just doubling the cost of each shot. So if you do it electronically, you'd have to use two noids (still one board, no big deal), and the sear mechanism would have to be funky. I'm going to try to think something up myself, now that you've gotten me interested!

you could do it mechanically by just having it so one sear dropped to a firing position before the second one. you could do it with pneumatics so the release fired one and the pull fired the other (only issue is that the release sear would almost always be down so the second shot may be slightly hotter)

electronics could do it but i think that would over complicate it when it could be done by just setting the shooting point farther back on one of the triggers (but it would be lengthened but still 1 mm more to get a second ball, but the rt may not work well then)

-matt

[questionful]

you could do it mechanically by just having it so one sear dropped to a firing position before the second one. you could do it with pneumatics so the release fired one and the pull fired the other (only issue is that the release sear would almost always be down so the second shot may be slightly hotter)

electronics could do it but i think that would over complicate it when it could be done by just setting the shooting point farther back on one of the triggers (but it would be lengthened but still 1 mm more to get a second ball, but the rt may not work well then)

-matt

With the "pull and release" you'd have to deal with the PITA it probably is to be forced to fire a second shot or hold the trigger down. So it would be cool if you had the option of switching to semi. And I think the sears should both be reset when the trigger is idle, or I think the valves will be shooting different FPS's. I think electropneumatic is the best option, but it depends on how you want it to shoot.

It would be dang awesome to sit in a tank, with a scuba tank and two warp feeds, hold the trigger down and watch 60BPS come out of those double barrels.

[SR_matt]

With the "pull and release" you'd have to deal with the PITA it probably is to be forced to fire a second shot or hold the trigger down. So it would be cool if you had the option of switching to semi. And I think the sears should both be reset when the trigger is idle, or I think the valves will be shooting different FPS's. I think electropneumatic is the best option, but it depends on how you want it to shoot.

It would be dang awesome to sit in a tank, with a scuba tank and two warp feeds, hold the trigger down and watch 60BPS come out of those double barrels.

ya, i think unless you set it up with electronics and 2 separate solenoids, the only way to keep it on just pull would be different lengths but i dont know if that would cause problems

-matt

[doc_Zox]

[mpsd]

Pics!

Some pics I've found on my "libary":

The first one, made by Tom Kaye himself:







The newer one, made by Jay from Cerberus:







Enjoy!

[LK-13]

uh... no...
this is a Double Badger

[LK-13]

The newer one, made by Jay from Cerberus:

close, but mine will be very different.
particularly the ones with the custom bodies i'm making.
then there is the wood stocked one..............

[SR_matt]

only thing i would say is that some one needs to machine or mold a bottom from a double halo/reloader/other force feed hoper that has 2 assemblies in one unit so it is easier to assemble, take care of, and shrinks the profile

-matt

[LK-13]

i'm thinking QLoaders.

[jay8541]

I have another design in mind for my Dbl mag that I will get to in a few months but i would love to see yours sounds like it wiill be great. The reason i have delayed my 2 versions is because though they would be very cool,they are not something that alot of people would want to play with all the time I am staying totally mechanical and am using q loaders for mine as well My idea is to utilize spare bodies and rails that people already have to save on costs so the parts are easier to find and afford the custom part on mine is the trigger frame, trigger and panels. i am not making mine sound so appealing am I lol but i will post some pics when they are done and again i look forward to your work.

[LK-13]

most of mine will be either AGD parts or off the shelf hardware so that the user can service everything on it.

one of the doubles might end up looking something like this:


I'm thinking your forearm gets strapped in between the guns
so that you can carry the weight longer.

[cyrus-the-virus]

Defender style?

http://undergroundmodshop.com/forums/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=3419

[LK-13]

possibly, but not quite so over the top.
i want to build guns that can be used on the field
not just to shock and amaze on rare occasions.

[cyrus-the-virus]

possibly, but not quite so over the top.
i want to build guns that can be used on the field
not just to shock and amaze on rare occasions.

Just using it as a refrence, I don't think that feed system would work well on the automag

[questionful]

The around-forearm thing sounds cool. Though it would add cost and complexity, it would be awesome if the grip pivoted and could unlock from the around the forearm position so you could keep your elbow down and still sight down the barrels.