The DevilMag:

[Empyreal Rogue]

I've been trying to think of a catchy title to draw in attention. I figured this was probably the best way to do it.

There are several DIY Automag projects out there. Pneumatic, Electro-Pneumatic, Ego Frames, DM Frames, and even Shocker Frames. With the complexity of these different projects ranging from high to medium I began wondering... Why hasn't anyone thought about a DIY DevilFrame project?

Maybe not a carbon copy of the DevilFrame, but at the very least something similar? Think about it, GADevil himself made each project out of his own home which means all the tools needed to make it are easily accessible, already owned by the right people, or are simply just affordable. Is there something that made these special? The way I see if and from what I understand about the DevilFrame, it's simply a Chimera Frame with a 25g switch, a Predator Board, an 18v battery, and some wires. Is the possibility of a DIY DevilFrame being overshadowed by E-PneuFrames, or is it far more complex than that?

I'm not encouraging anyone to continue his "legacy", but perhaps take apart a DevilFrame to see how they were made. Honestly, I'd do all this myself if I had a DevilFrame examine. I may even do it anyway if someone with a DevilFrame doesn't mind helping me out. I'll even put together a step by step instruction list. Maybe give it my own twist so I could give it its own name.

[MANN]

Atach has done a couple of these. I have seen others do it also. They are basicly the same thing as a hyperframe. someone on beo has a zgrip with it in there.

[Rudz]

They weren't chimera frames, they were chimera blanks, and gadevil had tag sportz cut them to fit a soleniod, 9v, micro switch and predator morlock board, the soleniods were a pain in the butt to get, good luck getting a good supply of morlock boards, though we do have the scenario dreams univeral board now, the soleniod would be tricky, and find someone willing blank frame, blank meaning, nothing is cut out internally, not uled or anything, so they can be cut for all the specific parts, plus with xmod for hour emags, pnuematic frames, ego frames, well we don't care to much about another e frame, plus your not allowed to mention, tag sportz, bob sandifer, gadevil/ chris brooks, why? Because I said so....lol suckahs

[Empyreal Rogue]

hm.. I see.

So does the inside of the Chimera Frame need a lot of cutting to fit everything?

The reason I posed this question is because whenever someone mentions their DevilMag or when others talk about the DevilMag its always spoken about as if it's the best. But it seems like no one is interested in making it themselves. Is it a hassle, expensive, lack of confidence in the builders, or just DevilMag owners wanting to remain exclusive?

Now I need to talk to A-Tach since I know he does own a DevilFrame himself. See how the original DevilFrame compares to his homemade one, ultimately to judge if this would be worth it since I'd sell my E-Mag lowers for this.

[Rudz]

Tach just put a microswitch, a 9v, and used an ape baords and some niod, packed it all in a chimera

[going_home]

Logic EM Ripper

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179550

[p8ntbal4me]

I filled in some of the blanks

~ P8nt

Why hasn't anyone thought about a DIY DevilFrame project?.

Someone has,... it is a small, very quiet project for personal use only (4 frames total).

Maybe not a carbon copy of the DevilFrame, but at the very least something similar? Think about it, GADevil himself made each project out of his own home which means all the tools needed to make it are easily accessible, already owned by the right people, or are simply just affordable. Is there something that made these special? The way I see if and from what I understand about the DevilFrame, it's simply a Chimera Frame with a 25g switch, a Predator Board, an 18v battery, and some wires. Is the possibility of a DIY DevilFrame being overshadowed by E-PneuFrames, or is it far more complex than that?.

The Devil Mag Frame itself is very simple. buy a Hyperframe, lay it over a frame of your choice, trace it out,... mill the excess. At least,... thats what I did.

Heres a version that Im finishing up in my spare time 1 day a week for a few hours.


Ive already had a model done to test the parts out. The trigger needs some work,... the solenoid, battery, board, LED, and some other goodies all fit. This first generation model was built to take EGO triggers.




Converting an existing Chimera frame is not that difficult if your the type of guy that measures more than 5 times and mills once.

A UTB, micro switch, solenoid, 9volt battery, capacitor, some solder and some time is all it takes.

All the above parts can be purchased through me if thats the route you want to go.

[Rudz]

Hey that looks like BEO chat in that pik with your frame model

[mpsd]

There's one being developed right now with an UMF frame, a Scenario Dreams Universal board (with eyes) and a Spyder noid. I can't say much about it right now because it's still being studied (how to place the noid on the frame without ruining the frame's structure) but hopefully I'll be able to upload some pics when the work actually starts. It's going to be a bad-*** gun. Wait and you'll see.

[Ruler_Mark]

I think a professionally done pnue setup would be the best. but we all know where that has gone

[Empyreal Rogue]

Hm.. Unfortunately for me the only piece of equipment/machinery that I do not have is any kind of mill so it may be difficult, but certainly not impossible so long as I lay down a lot of plans and measurements for how to convert a clean Chimera Frame into a DevilFrame.

Though I still want to decide if I want to do that in place of a complete E-Mag.

[questionful]

What's the fastest a sear-tripper 'noid can go? And how does the solenoid travel on a mag compare to that on a spyder?

[mpsd]

Rogue, I have an e-Mag and trully LOVE it. The trigger feel is unbeatable, trust me. Now, if you are a tinkerer and like to invent things, and have patience to adjust them, go ahead.

Questionful, I may be wrong with that but I trully believe the maximum ROF would be north of 30, maybe 35 BPS. Take a look at other sear tripped guns, such as the Proto SLG and the Mini. Now, the difference between the sears on the Spyder and the Mag is that the Spyder's sear moves up and down, while the Mag's goes front and back. Therefore, you have to twist the noid 90 degrees to make it functional with the Mag.

[snoopay700]

Rogue, I have an e-Mag and trully LOVE it. The trigger feel is unbeatable, trust me. Now, if you are a tinkerer and like to invent things, and have patience to adjust them, go ahead.

Questionful, I may be wrong with that but I trully believe the maximum ROF would be north of 30, maybe 35 BPS. Take a look at other sear tripped guns, such as the Proto SLG and the Mini. Now, the difference between the sears on the Spyder and the Mag is that the Spyder's sear moves up and down, while the Mag's goes front and back. Therefore, you have to twist the noid 90 degrees to make it functional with the Mag.

Since when does the mini use a sear?

[mpsd]

Since when does the mini use a sear?

Doesn't it? LOL!!! OK, forget that part... Substitute that for one of those Spyders with two trigger switches then.