This is what happens when you pay 1600 for an overmilled amrker (taken from PBN)

[snoopay700]

Much better? You must be kidding right? High end electro's over $400 are all within inches of each other preformance wise. Its totally personal preference. Ive owned and or shot them all and it comes down to feel from the Mini on up to the high dollar Ego's and DM's. Some may be marginally better than others at certain things but it comes down to the fact that they all shoot fast enough to max a loader consistantly, accuratly, all while weighing less than 2lbs.

When i say much better, i am speaking about personal preference, but also in terms of the quality (there are others that are around the same wieght that wouldn't snap like that) as well as the price. Depending on if you find a deal or not i would take an excal over an ego anyday.

[ravenlord]

I think anyone that has been playing for more then 5 years, is over the age of 17, and doesn't play on mommys bill would love an AKA gun over an Ego any day. I know I would, and I don't even fit the first catagory.

Though it has been said, the high ends proform about the same, with only minor differences.

[chafnerjr]

I'd like to see someone try to bend my airwalk! Not anywhere near as light as those... to be fair the company claims to have done this on purpose. Something about high pressure air tanks being rockets if the ASA gets sheared off... yadda yadda yadda... I want to see video! IDK I've got way too much into my gun to go stuffing it in the dirt on a superman dive... tried it plenty before but then again I'm not a pro speedballer and I just break too many parts when I do crap like that...

[Army]

My 'Mag frame can pick up a car....

[Rudz]

bigevils brother literally pole vaulted on and xmag, when bigevil yanked it out of the ground, the breech was bent away from the body, remarkably the sob still fired, the barrel was just pionting down, lol, a lil work in the vice and its as good as new, lol

edited, i realized i cant spell for crap and made no sense...

[Ninjeff]

I'd like to see someone try to bend my airwalk! Not anywhere near as light as those... to be fair the company claims to have done this on purpose. Something about high pressure air tanks being rockets if the ASA gets sheared off... yadda yadda yadda... I want to see video! IDK I've got way too much into my gun to go stuffing it in the dirt on a superman dive... tried it plenty before but then again I'm not a pro speedballer and I just break too many parts when I do crap like that...

As requested:http://youtube.com/watch?v=vRcbblRqUPA

a paintball tank shearing off an asa.

[bryceeden]

You guys may give PE crap but hey, they have replaced every bent frame for free of charge.

No, they have not. In fact there was a big thing when the Protege came out with a Player who had bent his Ego7 like that and took it to Eclipse who told him he'd have to buy a new one so he thru the Ego away and bought a Protege from BLAST. JackWood got on the thread saying that it wasn't covered under warrentee if you hit your marker like that(I'd tend to agree).

PE does not cover this problem, and frankly I don't know why they should people bought a marker they new was milled to nothing and then dive on top of it, of course its going to bend.

Much better? You must be kidding right? High end electro's over $400 are all within inches of each other preformance wise. Its totally personal preference. Ive owned and or shot them all and it comes down to feel from the Mini on up to the high dollar Ego's and DM's. Some may be marginally better than others at certain things but it comes down to the fact that they all shoot fast enough to max a loader consistantly, accuratly, all while weighing less than 2lbs.

Finally someone who sees it for what it is

[JesseB]

I think anyone that has been playing for more then 5 years, is over the age of 17, and doesn't play on mommys bill would love an AKA gun over an Ego any day. I know I would, and I don't even fit the first catagory.

Though it has been said, the high ends proform about the same, with only minor differences.

lol except you can't buy a new one.
I'd like to have a viking but I'll take a readily available ego any day versus searching for weeks/months to find a decent viking come up for sale... the there is the issue of parts... can you still get viking/excal parts new from the factory?

[Ratzo]

That was one crazy vid, lets all make sure our rails and ASA's are secured probely.

And AKA has a lifetime warntee on the Vikes and Ecals.

[ravenlord]

Ya, that is the only problem with the AKA guns. Again, we can blame SP for that.

That was not the ASA shearing off, that was the tanks reg shearing or breaking. 800psi has a lot of force behind it, but not enough to make it rocket like that, ot release that amount of air in that small peroid of time.

[SummaryJudgement]

I remember seeing pics a while back of a shocker that some guy did a faceplant on. The whole frame was twisted nearly 45 degrees from the gun body

[aqua_scummm]

there's a few of those here

http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/gallery_busted.html

[neppo1345]

I don't see the big deal here OMGZORZ!!1!11 THE FRAME BENT!...

If you're and idiot and use your gun to cushion your fall it's going to bend. These guns are designed to be light, shoot fast, take a fall here and there...but they aren't designed to be used as pole vault equipment.

Do the math. Typical 45/45 tank w/ reg and asa is about 10 inches long (I'm at work, so if I'm off on dimensions...let me be). So, 160lb dude puts his body weight into the end of the tank and bam...133 ftlb of torque on the frame...and thats not accounting momentum if he's running which could easily double the figure.

I blame the player for being an idiot, not the manufacturer.

[chafnerjr]

there's a few of those here

http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/gallery_busted.html

No mag parts there Not to say that they don't break, I'm just sayin...

P.S.
That video was crazy!!!

[drg]

bigevils brother literally pole vaulted on and xmag, when bigevil yanked it out of the ground, the breech was bent away from the body, remarkably the sob still fired, the barrel was just pionting down, lol, a lil work in the vice and its as good as new, lol

edited, i realized i cant spell for crap and made no sense...

Amazing how this tale of a mag damaged by applying a high torque load to it goes unnoticed ...

BTW you guys realize that dremeling off the center strap and thinning out the sides of intelliframes et. al. for pneumatics and possibly electronics makes those frames a lot weaker too ... right?