This is what happens when you pay 1600 for an overmilled amrker (taken from PBN)

[questionful]

Amazing how this tale of a mag damaged by applying a high torque load to it goes unnoticed ...

BTW you guys realize that dremeling off the center strap and thinning out the sides of intelliframes et. al. for pneumatics and possibly electronics makes those frames a lot weaker too ... right?

Well see, that was literal pole vaulting, not figurative pole vaulting!

[Enemy]

ok so let me get this straight you want your guns made out of the lightest material possible. and than expect it to stand up to around 200lbs of torque being put on it.

and i seriously doubt that PE designed these markers to bend like this, but then again i would rather replace a frame than my face!!

dont forget that tanks can kill even at co2 pressures, or did everyone forget about the mom that took the co2 tank to the head?

though some one has to put up the photo of the mag frame holding up a car on the pbn thread!

[questionful]

Ha ha! Forgot about that picture. I would like to see the looks on the faces of all the PBN'ers staring at their monitors, questioning their long-held beliefs. "Whoa, AGD makes some good produ--NOO!! MUST. . . SUPPORT. . . COMPANIES. . . BASED ON. . . HOW GOOD THEIR. . . MARKETING IS!!!!!"

[rkjunior303]

not to mention jack wood made the frame like that to intentionally bend the frame rather than break at the asa.

[drg]

not to mention jack wood made the frame like that to intentionally bend the frame rather than break at the asa.

Is this true? Is it documented somewhere?

[snoopay700]

Is this true? Is it documented somewhere?

Someone in that thread said it's called a crash frame, and that they replace it for free. It would make sense, seeing as it's better to replace a frame than have your tank go off on it's own.

[rkjunior303]

Is this true? Is it documented somewhere?

Said by Jack Wood himself in the PBN thread.

[pmstc]

Amazing how this tale of a mag damaged by applying a high torque load to it goes unnoticed ...

BTW you guys realize that dremeling off the center strap and thinning out the sides of intelliframes et. al. for pneumatics and possibly electronics makes those frames a lot weaker too ... right?

LAWS OF PHYSICS DONT APPLY TO MAGS GTFO MY THREAD

[drg]

Said by Jack Wood himself in the PBN thread.

Ingenius design or a clever lawsuit avoidance? hehe
"Crumple zones"!

[secretweaponevan]

Said by Jack Wood himself in the PBN thread.

Why does a Pee Wee Herman voice pop into my head with the classic, "I meant to do that" when I hear this.

ego fanboys should have posted the classic "pics or shens" to that.

Doesn't matter, Smart Parts will patent frames designed to bend and there will be even less innovation coming down the pike in the future.

and, LOL!

Can you please close this thread? The person who broke his Sl8r is on one of our feeder teams. With Planet Eclipse as our sponsor, they requested that we dont post pics or vids of this.

Quality always shoots straight!

Edit: ^I just HAD to post that in the pbn thread.

[SCpoloRicker]

LAWS OF PHYSICS DONT APPLY TO MAGS GTFO MY THREAD

*snert*

[Chronobreak]

oh the bent frame is a safety feature

i should have known! i feel like the retard now

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=47883798#post47883798

few other bent frames

as well as i know for a fact a local kid twisted his ego just a week ago.

[drg]

That is interesting. Given that the only recorded (on film) incident of tank-missile I have seen is the afforementioned video of the aftermath of a dive, there might be something to the safety aspect.

I'm sure making it incompatible with other dovetail-based ASAs doesn't hurt the bottom line either

[Chronobreak]

they are now claiming that the frame was purposely made to bend like that and is a safety feature to keep the asa/tank or tank/reg from becoming detached.

maybe im missing something here, but really? i mean come on. If we are having to make frames bend to keep people safe i think we may need to revise how we are playing and the equipment we are using.

also, what if you fall on the gun long ways and not jsut against the frame, say the barrel to the back of the marker mainbody, or tall ways from the feedneck to the bottomframe, while i diddnt want to stir the pot on pbn too much being a mod and all i still just think its an excuse for overmilling.

and if the asa coming detached is a problem, perhaps they should rethink using the dovetail mounted system.

weird how this was never an issue until manufactureres got into a weight war and started featherweighting everything.

theres a nice post in the thread with a few bent frames from UL, egos, and a shocker

i guess shocker patented the first safety frame

oh and they patented teh safety feedneck, too much pressure and it snaps right off, COOL!

ide venture to say the standard two hole screw mount such as those on cockers/mags is safer than a dovetail and "crash" frame

Tom, or anyone else care to comment about this?

[drg]

and if the asa coming detached is a problem, perhaps they should rethink using the dovetail mounted system.

They did, they use a "t" rail now, which is stronger than the dovetail and is part of the claim that the frame is meant to take the damage rather than the junction between the ASA and the frame.

weird how this was never an issue until manufactureres got into a weight war and started featherweighting everything.

Damage to the tank/frame junction was never an issue until the popularization of the superman dive and turf fields.

It's not that common of a thing and honestly much ado about nothing. The lighter gun makes the ridiculous dive more possible in the first place, so it's kind of chicken-egg as well.

Another consideration is the prevalence of these guns in the type of play that this damage is likely to occur in, presumably all-out tournament-style play. You just don't see too many older markers in that situation so there isn't much chance for them to be exposed to this kind of treatment.