The Revolutionary Gun

[Spider-TW]

lol

play stock class or get a qloader you have options if you dont like hoppers.

I don't mind hoppers, but I do think a marker designed around a good feed mechanism could make an overall improvement in reliability. The A-5 is just a step in that direction and there was that other marker that never came out with the rotary breech and integrated hopper on top.

Everything else so far has been about the bolt and air delivery; get the balls in however you can. Making a pretty loader, breech, electronic bay, battery holding, regulating (or not regulating) grip frame that is at least a little customizable is a challenge for sure.

Kind of a carbon fiber warp frame with bin on it.

[JRingold]

Hopper not on top.. It has been done: Warp, Q-Loader, Long Bow, and my favorite ATS, http://www.getrealpaintball.com/.

I don't think that's revolutionary...

I am stuck on the Electromagnetic idea though. Not sure how it would work... What ever happened to that E-Volt thing?

[snoopay700]

Hopper not on top.. It has been done: Warp, Q-Loader, Long Bow, and my favorite ATS, http://www.getrealpaintball.com/.

I don't think that's revolutionary...

I am stuck on the Electromagnetic idea though. Not sure how it would work... What ever happened to that E-Volt thing?

The evolt seemed like a good idea, but i suspect that it was basically an AEG airsoft rifle for paitnball. That means that you can't change the velocity at all, you can't change the barrel, etc etc.

[MoeMag]

The evolt seemed like a good idea, but i suspect that it was basically an AEG airsoft rifle for paitnball. That means that you can't change the velocity at all, you can't change the barrel, etc etc.

Sure you can. An AEG can be modified with various barrels and velocities.
By changing the spring rate in your piston, you can increase your velocity. This usually takes away from your cycle rate and battery life, but these too may be upgraded with larger more powerful batteries/motors.

Also barrels are interchangeable. I had a madbull barrel in mine that was a tighter diameter. Helped with the air seal behind the ball, but this required the use of only high grade bb's so that nothing would get stuck.

[snoopay700]

Sure you can. An AEG can be modified with various barrels and velocities.
By changing the spring rate in your piston, you can increase your velocity. This usually takes away from your cycle rate and battery life, but these too may be upgraded with larger more powerful batteries/motors.

Also barrels are interchangeable. I had a madbull barrel in mine that was a tighter diameter. Helped with the air seal behind the ball, but this required the use of only high grade bb's so that nothing would get stuck.

I mean without taking it apart or buying extra parts. And by different barrels, i mean if you change the stock barrel it will change the velocity.

[MoeMag]

I mean without taking it apart or buying extra parts. And by different barrels, i mean if you change the stock barrel it will change the velocity.

True that.

[Warwitch]

lol

play stock class or get a qloader you have options if you dont like hoppers.

Have both. Just saying...

[snoopay700]

True that.

Yeah, it just seems like that marker would have a whole bunch of problems like that. It's a good idea, just wouldn't work well.

[MoeMag]

I would like to see development in a 50cal paintball system.

Real guns use multiple calibers for various purposes. I think various paintball calibers should be investigated.

with the decreased mass the velocity could be increased. the whole f=ma thing.

I would love a gun that shoots flatter and farther with greater accuracy.

I have been thinking for a while now I would like to make a scaled 50cal version of an classic valve.

[211]

RAP4 has their guns in 43 cal
and the old crossman paintball revolver was 50 cal
they just dont catch on
some places its hard to get decent paint, and that would become an even larger issue if you have to stock multiple sizes
dont get me wrong, smaller paintball/less weight+more fps=same impact, but most insurance policies for fields requires them to shoot under a set fps
so using a 50 cal youd still be required to shoot 300 fps

[angrysasquatch]

Pump- that 360 degree thing sounds great, but what would hold on the front half of the gun and barrel? Basically, everything in a 360 degree sweep would have to have a hole, therefore there isn't any material left. Now, you could do something crazy like the entire feed is the breech, and the whole thing turns, and have bushings and circlips on front and back halves of the gun, but there would be so much slop in such a design that it would have horrible accuracy, due to the barrel rattling back and forth, and would be very brittle (omgee that gun couldnt even take a fat guy's weight forcing it into the ground after that slide what a pile!! 11)

Anyways, a old-style Matrix allowed the breech to rotate from warp left to warp right positions, and any angle inbetween. Didn't really catch on, and was a lot of weight to be carting around to use a system that was adjustable on the fly.

As to the person who wanted a fully adjustable marker, all those adjustments are not as solid as a continuous chunk of aluminum bolted, and also would add a lot of weight if built sufficiently rugged. There is a drop which allows you to change the angle of the drop in relation to the gun and the angle of the tank in relation to the drop. Adding just a extendable drop to that would make the "play" unbearable, I think.

What paintball really needs is guns which are sold with one set of a large collection of parts, that is to say different drops and whatnot, different grips, all with the same styling. The player would go to their proshop and get their gun sized to them. essentially the same idea as above, but none of the disadvantages of undue play. This would do a few things, the player would have a much greater sense of pride over their gun, the brick and mortar shops would recover an advantage over online retailers, essentially fulfilling the role of a gunsmith, and the shop could go over all of the safety concerns of paintball guns (tank safety, mask rules, and where it is appropriate to use the gun). If this were to actually happen, it would solve many of paintball's current problems.

[russc]

I would like to see development in a 50cal paintball system.

Real guns use multiple calibers for various purposes. I think various paintball calibers should be investigated.

with the decreased mass the velocity could be increased. the whole f=ma thing.

I would love a gun that shoots flatter and farther with greater accuracy.

I have been thinking for a while now I would like to make a scaled 50cal version of an classic valve.

Smaller calibers lose range because they have less breaking power and momentum. Even at higher speeds, they have less effective range than bigger calibers.

[manike]

The evolt seemed like a good idea, but i suspect that it was basically an AEG airsoft rifle for paitnball. That means that you can't change the velocity at all, you can't change the barrel, etc etc.

The E-Volt was cocker threaded so you could change barrels. You could also adjust the velocity electronically.

By the time it was built the market had changed so dramatically that a study showed it wasn't feasible to continue at that point.

We had a fully working gun when the decision to stop it was made.

[unived micindev]

hmm...
no body, maybe just a rail bcz of frame - feedneck as part of valve system and u will screw barrell right in to valve...less wight, less probs with cleaning...possibility to change position of feedneck without tools or removing it....
what about air regulator as part of valve? - so u will screw bottle right in to valve - need to change position bcz of ergonomy
mech frame with modes? - sounds strange but just a idea...

i was always wondering why they just dont make airsystems with bolt and trigger frame...i know, i know...ergonomy...but u can still play with it

[snoopay700]

The E-Volt was cocker threaded so you could change barrels. You could also adjust the velocity electronically.

By the time it was built the market had changed so dramatically that a study showed it wasn't feasible to continue at that point.

We had a fully working gun when the decision to stop it was made.

Hmm, then maybe it doesn't work exactly like i thought it did, i figured it worked like an airsoft gun, i guess it didn't if you could actually change the velocity electronically.