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    Ave Dominus Nox
    • May 2007
    • 555

    #1

    Reverse Minimag valve

    So I had my local field donate all their old mag parts to me (Thanks a ton Dave!!!)
    Included in this hodge podge of parts is a reverse minimag valve shell. I say shell because thats all there is. This valve went through a fire, so all the orings are gone, and it looks like someone tried to get it going again, starting with a complete disassembly.
    The shell seems fine, gotta love stainless, although the brass top in the on/off didnt fair to well (it is melted into the chamber fairly solidly.)

    So Im wondering, are the reverse Mini va;ves unusual enough that I should go through the process of rebuilding the valve?
  • secretweaponevan
    Only HALF Polish!
    • Sep 2007
    • 1132

    #2
    They are fairly rare.

    Gonna take a lot of love to get her back up and running again. I don't know if it is worth the time, but good luck!

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    • Ir0nExpress
      Registered User
      • Mar 2006
      • 161

      #3
      I dont personally consider reverse valves that rare of a commodity. I find them only necessary if you do something like a double mag or a pair of mag pistols. I understand how it can matter for some people do to their play style but it's nothing that a different hose arrangement can't fix.

      A decent project, but I dont think putting too much money into it will make it worth it in the long run.
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      • olinar
        mech>electro
        • May 2006
        • 1777

        #4
        If youve got another classic valve that can be a donor for parts Id say go for it. Otherwise, going through the hassle of buying all the internals would cost too much. But I would rather have a reverse valve than a regular one.

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        • Chris Nearchos
          Aerospace Engineer Student
          • Aug 2004
          • 1910

          #5
          ??

          can you get pictures of the valve?

          and if you dont want to fix it, shoot me a pm with price for the vlave.
          -Chris
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          • MournBlade
            Registered User
            • Jan 2008
            • 86

            #6
            If you have access to an acetylene torch, clamp the valve in a vice and set the flame to about a quarter inch, then carefully heat the power tube behind the tip until its red hot. using vise grips get a good hold of the tip and work it out. The heat will expand the powertube a bit and make it easier to get the tip out. If its a pre-level7 valve, the power tube can be removed from the valve body.

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            • snoopay700
              Serious About Men

              • Jan 2006
              • 3071

              #7
              Originally posted by MournBlade
              If you have access to an acetylene torch, clamp the valve in a vice and set the flame to about a quarter inch, then carefully heat the power tube behind the tip until its red hot. using vise grips get a good hold of the tip and work it out. The heat will expand the powertube a bit and make it easier to get the tip out. If its a pre-level7 valve, the power tube can be removed from the valve body.
              He didn't say powertube tip, he said the on/off top. That will be much trickier to get out.
              Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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              • MournBlade
                Registered User
                • Jan 2008
                • 86

                #8
                since brass has a lower melting point use direct heat and a heavy copper solder wick.

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                • matteusz
                  It's not about the gun.
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 1106

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MournBlade
                  since brass has a lower melting point use direct heat and a heavy copper solder wick.
                  This is the best idea. Heat that sucker up and just let the brass flow out. You won't do anything worse than the fire already did. If you can't melt the on off top out it isn't worth it.

                  If you can and you get it shooting smooth it is worth about 70$ plus shipping. Maybe a little less. Been a while since I sold one. There are several around and if you really want one all you have to do is watch ebay for a month. They come up if you have a good eye.
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                  • athomas
                    Of course it works-its AGD
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8039

                    #10
                    You could mill the top out with a 3/8" flat endmill. If you had a good drill press, you could do this fairly easily.

                    The reverse valves came on all minimags back in the day. The minimags were equipped with a line that ran down the left side of the body to the vertical feed asa, which was different from the right side loop of stainless airline to the back bottle asa that most 68 automags came with.
                    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                    • paint magnet
                      Member # 10,261
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 2488

                      #11
                      I think they usually go for $10-20 more than regular valves. I paid $85 for a pre-star MM valve back when regular valves sold for $70 or so.
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                      • Chris Nearchos
                        Aerospace Engineer Student
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1910

                        #12
                        fire did a number

                        Man, this valve is one crispy critter! But we will see what my magic can do for it....hopefully it will be back up and running in a month or two. And thats only if am lucky with the on/off.
















                        BTW, how did this valve end up in a fire?

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                        • paint magnet
                          Member # 10,261
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 2488

                          #13
                          Could you drill a self-tapping screw into the on/off and then try to pull the screw out with pliers?

                          Or better yet, send it to AGD if it still has a star left
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                          • snoopay700
                            Serious About Men

                            • Jan 2006
                            • 3071

                            #14
                            Originally posted by paint magnet
                            Could you drill a self-tapping screw into the on/off and then try to pull the screw out with pliers?

                            Or better yet, send it to AGD if it still has a star left
                            Haha, they'd probably murder him, or just replace it with another valve that's not a reversed one.
                            Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              The star wouldn't help here for a valve that's been physically damaged by something other than regular use. The warrantee is only for malfunctions and manufacturers defects.

                              Take some pictures with the camera farther away from the valve so that they are in focus so that we can get a better view of the insides.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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