Pump Mag Disappointment

[going_home]

Surprised no one else said this. But check your sear for wear also. If the bolt is hanging to far in the breach when latched . It will cause the ball not to drop all the way. Also check the bolt for flat spots. The bolt will rotate slightly each time fired.

If one of you 2 want to send me your marker. I would like to see this issue for my self. I've heard of this issue before. But would like to see it. And solve it.

I have some other level 7 bolts and a couple other sears too.
Maybe I will send it to you if I cant solve it myself.
In all fairness to rainman, all he did was assemble what I sent him.
It may be the level 7 or something just needs tweaking.

[paintball72]

It's a mag, not a girlfriend...

is there a difference

[Little_Ho]

i know my Bolt clears the Breach when not reset when reset it will be back a lil further. So with no Ball detent it will fall in place just right with the Detent screwed in it will not all the time. By unscrewing it it will most of the time double feed because first Ball rolls into barrel.

[Rainman229]

Ok Since your convinced it's the detent. Any chance Theres no o'ring on the detent? There is supposed to be one on the threads.. If not put one on. if there is find a thicker one to go on and see if that solves your problem.

[snoopay700]

is there a difference

I don't know about you, but i don't stick it in my mag.

[cyrus-the-virus]

I don't know about you, but i don't stick it in my mag.

weirdo...

[senghing27]

and a hush fell across the land

[Little_Ho]

Ok Since your convinced it's the detent. Any chance Theres no o'ring on the detent? There is supposed to be one on the threads.. If not put one on. if there is find a thicker one to go on and see if that solves your problem.

Yes there was an O-Ring on the Detend and i even put a second one on but looks like its to strong for a Vertical feed Gravity hopper.

[PumpMag]

Little Ho:

For a vertical body try a pressure fed hopper (Halo, Egg, Velocity, etc) that should keep the balls in the stack. Also note that with those small Winchester/Brass Eagle 50 round hoppers, the blowback from a Mag will push them up the ball stack back into the loader, that's one reason I like powerfeed bodies which prevent that. Also try to use another detent maybe the inside spring is too hard.

Going Home - try these things:

A new bolt, new sear, and an old level 7 bolt spring. Use the shortest bolt spring you have. As mentioned above the blue bumper should be cut to fit inside the bolt spring. Or try using a New wave spring.

[Rainman229]

Yes there was an O-Ring on the Detend and i even put a second one on but looks like its to strong for a Vertical feed Gravity hopper.

Have you tried different detents? Angel detents seem to be weaker then agds. Only draw back is you need a thicker oring and they stick out further.

[Bang and Breach]

WAAAAAY too much tinkering going on in here.

Mags dont require ANY sort of adjustment, or tinkering.

[kosmo]

Tuck and roll, grandma...

[matteusz]

#1 don't you eventually sell all your markers anyway?

#2 I have discovered that mags have magical "leave me properties." They need to be dialed in when first built. Once they have given you fits they become attached to the spot of hair they caused you to rip out. Put them in a box with the hair for 3 months and wala they work forevermore. After that you just need to keep the commitment. No changing bodies or anything and they will keep working. Make major changes and it requires a new peice of hair and a box for 3 more months.

[NU_METAL]

Don't feel bad, I didn't like the feel of the pump mag I had either. There's nothing wrong with you, you can still be a mag enthusiast without liking everything mag related. I consider myself a mag enthusiast but don't own a mag with a body or rail made by AGD, much less use a warp feed...

could not have said this better myself
i have to say allen once you tune in a mag it dont change unless you start messing with it again like me

[Strider]

Yeh, the more complex the harder it is to pump mag. :)

Not a Classic valve? Harder.

Using LX, even harder.

Having a bumper behind instead of in the wavespring, REALLY hard.


I've ran my pumpmag for 6 years now without having any issues. I tried to use my xvalve with LX one day, and while I eventually got it to work, it was really finicy. :)


Oooooh, it's been too long.... Photo time!