Length of 22ci tank + Myth

[Warwitch]

Can I get a measurment from end to end? Custom stock in the works and I need to make sure its going to fit.

Much thanks

[going_home]

A 22ci with no reg next to a 20oz CO2 tank.



I didnt like the 22ci because it seemed way too long to me.


EDIT: According to Wevopaintball.com they are 13.5 inches with a reg.

[trevorjk]

i never understood why no one made a baseball sized carbon fiber tank. heck cut the new 48's in half and that would have my attention in seconds

[Oregon_pb_]

why make it so long? It just doesn't make sense...


If your using a tiny tank you want it to be small bc you play in tight area's, front/bunkers. With that in mind making the tank long and skinny defeats the purpose of having a small tank. Make the damn thing like a balloon but only 6 inches long. I bet people would be more willing to use them because they actually provide a benefit to using them.

[Warwitch]

Thanks for the measurment G_H. Anybody got a height?

I plan on running it way forward like this:

[michbich]

why make it so long? It just doesn't make sense...


If your using a tiny tank you want it to be small bc you play in tight area's, front/bunkers. With that in mind making the tank long and skinny defeats the purpose of having a small tank. Make the damn thing like a balloon but only 6 inches long. I bet people would be more willing to use them because they actually provide a benefit to using them.

Because you don't need to hydro test them if they are smaller than 2" in diameter.

[Oregon_pb_]

Because you don't need to hydro test them if they are smaller than 2" in diameter.

I didn't know that, that could be a point if someone doesn't want to pay $25-35 every 5 years to have a smaller profile gun they play with every other weekend?

[Warwitch]

Because you don't need to hydro test them if they are smaller than 2" in diameter.

And I can always have it anod to match.

[going_home]

Thanks for the measurment G_H. Anybody got a height?

I plan on running it way forward like this:

22 cu. in.
3000 psi
Tank w/
reg

Diameter 2"

Length 13.5"

Weight 21.3 oz

Its all on wevopaintball.com

[Chronobreak]

you then need to figure in your asa length and the 3/4 to 1" for the reg base(not including threads)

[GoatBoy]

Weird. Why the sudden interest in the small HPA tanks? People tend to freak out when I bring them out to the field, especially the guys who have to fill them.

you then need to figure in your asa length and the 3/4 to 1" for the reg base(not including threads)

Right.

I happened to be going through my gear and getting stuff ready for shipping, so I had my measuring implements out and took a few quick pics.

There's a similar thread to this on PbN, but PbN is dirty so I won't ask you to go there.



Note that I lined those bottles up starting from the beginning of the bottle proper, not the ends of the valve/regulators. As you can see, the valves/regulators can make a big difference, as well as your choice of ASA and drop as Chronobreak mentioned. So the GA Myth, while indeed small, still takes space. As you can see, I opted in my case for a SP (yes, I know, evil) Micro Max-Flo, which comes with integrated rail and is I think the most compact thing overall available.

As far as the "why would you want to do this"?

First, the 2" hydro rule is a good example, because when I returned to paintball after a brief layover, 3 of my tanks went out of hydro, and prior to buying that 22ci tank, only my nitro duck 45/45 and my 13ci tank were still usable. I rarely use more than 200 shots in a single game of hyper/speedball. If I do, it's usually because the game degenerated to a 2-on-1, and I'm statistically screwed in that case anyways.

Second, if you're really sneaky, you can disguise the thing as a CO2 tank and you would have a pretty crazy sleeper mag, albeit for only about 200 shots (see above). I can imagine taking a micro-myth, removing the gauge and stuffing it with a black plug or another burst disc (use the filling station's PSI gauge to check where you're at), and just screwing it in there. You'd have to look pretty closely at the reg to find the fill nipple, basically.

Third, if you want CO2-like size, but still want to use an RT style valve/reg, then you have to use one of these HPA tanks.

Generally speaking, if you're going to be slinging the paint on an RT like it's going out of style, then you probably want to use one one of these HPA tanks and make sure you get the job done quickly.

However, if you're a little slower on the trigger, you might go with, say, a classic valve with a gutted reg fitted with a Palmer stab which is more than happy to eat your liquid CO2 and regulate your pressure for you. And then just use a 7oz CO2 tank which will give you way more shots with close to the same profile.


As far as the "annoying length"; you have to look at it as another component of your marker, and look at the total system overall. You have to plan ahead. "Grip is this long and goes here", "ASA is this long and goes here", "I need this long to make an effective stock", etc.

In my case:



The 22ci with the Micro Max-Flo and a y-grip, which effectively is a slight drop-forward works pretty darn nicely. I need to reroute the air lines/grip and q-socket (again), but I was expecting this and have already made preparations.


God, I love that Y-grip.

[drg]

Weird. Why the sudden interest in the small HPA tanks?

Pump.

[Warwitch]

Pump.

No (though it does seem to be the trend). Trying to cut costs/improve game. I pretty much only shoot semi/mechanical anymore. It has also let me go back to a Revvy (as well as a tiny tank).

[drg]

No (though it does seem to be the trend). Trying to cut costs/improve game. I pretty much only shoot semi/mechanical anymore. It has also let me go back to a Revvy (as well as a tiny tank).

Pump is the reason GENERALLY for interest in these tanks, and indeed is the reason there are 13ci and 22ci tanks for you to even consider.

[robnix]

Pump is the reason GENERALLY for interest in these tanks, and indeed is the reason there are 13ci and 22ci tanks for you to even consider.

Yep. We have some fields here that no longer have CO2 fills, so these tanks are the best option for pumps.