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  • d-paint
    Registered User
    • Jul 2008
    • 55

    #31
    Originally posted by trevorjk
    can you please stop with the caps lock? its rather annoying. we would rather answer a million dumb questions then try to read caps lock all day

    and to answer your question, YES the Tac-one comes with an X-Valve, which is an aluminum RT-Valve.
    thnks
    oh and by the way ill do caps lock ad long as i want...

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    • d-paint
      Registered User
      • Jul 2008
      • 55

      #32
      Originally posted by d-paint
      thnks
      oh and by the way ill do caps lock ad long as i want...
      oh and just so u know i didnt even pay attencion that i had caps lock

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      • ThePixelGuru
        Guru of Pixels
        • May 2005
        • 1461

        #33
        Originally posted by d-paint
        YES..THIS HELPS ALOT
        THANXS...SO THE TAC ONE ALLREADY HAS A RT RIGHT...YOU PROBABLY THINK IM DUMB... THIS IS THE LAST DUMB QUESTION I SWEAR....
        Yes, the Tac-One comes with an X-Valve, so it can do the RT thing (or not, depends on how you tune it and your input pressure). If you want a light trigger pull and no bounce, get a ULT on/off. If you want it to bounce, you can track down some older RT parts which are better suited for rapid fire.

        If you want to know more about rapid fire, check out this guy's page:

        He's pretty much the undisputed king of rapid fire.
        Last edited by ThePixelGuru; 07-23-2008, 07:00 PM.

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        • d-paint
          Registered User
          • Jul 2008
          • 55

          #34
          Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
          Yes, the Tac-One comes with an X-Valve, so it can do the RT thing (or not, depends on how you tune it and your input pressure). If you want a light trigger pull and no bounce, get a ULT on/off. If you want it to bounce, you can track down some older RT parts which are better suited for rapid fire.

          If you want to know more about rapid fire, check out this guy's page:

          He's pretty much the undisputed king of rapid fire.

          thanks i'll go right away..

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          • d-paint
            Registered User
            • Jul 2008
            • 55

            #35
            i found this thing written on the net....but does this mean that the tac one dosnt have a place to screw on the hpa tank??

            "Because we know most scenario players like to set up their own air systems, the Tac One is sold without hoses and air adapters."

            it has to have it right?

            well what does it mean??

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            • SkinnyHare
              Dispensing 30mm hate.
              • Dec 2007
              • 315

              #36
              you are correct. unless you select that option to have those things included... it will not come with the mount to put the tank into and it will not come with the fittings or hoses to carry your air from the tank to the valve.

              they are assuming that the person buying the gun would rather have those things set up according to their own preference, instead of a generic set up that would come from the factory.
              Last edited by SkinnyHare; 07-24-2008, 10:08 AM.

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              • d-paint
                Registered User
                • Jul 2008
                • 55

                #37
                yea but if i order the marker from america i would need those things coz here i cant find them...how do i order them..?

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                • ThePixelGuru
                  Guru of Pixels
                  • May 2005
                  • 1461

                  #38
                  Originally posted by d-paint
                  yea but if i order the marker from america i would need those things coz here i cant find them...how do i order them..?
                  One of the options from the drop-down menu when you order the Tac-One is to select a Hose/Air Adaptor Pack. You can get one with the Tac-One for an extra $30, and if you select the option it will come installed on the marker already. They just don't make you buy an air line and ASA with the marker if you don't want to because it's usually one of the first things people replace when they buy a marker.

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                  • d-paint
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 55

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
                    One of the options from the drop-down menu when you order the Tac-One is to select a Hose/Air Adaptor Pack. You can get one with the Tac-One for an extra $30, and if you select the option it will come installed on the marker already. They just don't make you buy an air line and ASA with the marker if you don't want to because it's usually one of the first things people replace when they buy a marker.

                    oh i see..

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                    • d-paint
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 55

                      #40
                      hey guys its me again
                      i had couple of question more about the tac...
                      what kind of hpa tank do i need for it..?
                      and the hopper what is the best one for it?
                      and please if there is anything i need to know about it please just tell me ok..maybe someone that allready has it or anybody i just want to know everything before i'll get it..
                      i know you can help me alot and sorry if im annoing i dont mean to...i just need help...
                      i'm so exited ...
                      thank alot really

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                      • FiXeL
                        Registered Gun-Whore
                        • May 2006
                        • 819

                        #41
                        Get something with atleast 850 psi output, 68ci/1.1L carbon fiber tank. (4500psi/300bar) Crossfire regs are one of the best out there. I use a 68ci Stako tank with Guerilla Air Ambush HP reg, also very nice. Don't get a LP or Myth reg, those won't have enough output for a mag. A full 68ci, 4500psi tank should give you enough air for about 1000-1200 shots.

                        Any hopper will do on a tac, aslong it's not the shake and rattle kind. Revvies should be fast enough for a mech, but personally i preffer the halo. Turn it on at the start of the day and forget about putting it on and off. Feeds fast enough even for a pneumag and is not consuming much battery power. The only downside is that you will have to file down the feedneck to fit it in the stock feedneck of the tac. If you get a revvy, you won't have to do this and maybe this is the better choice for you.

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                        • d-paint
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 55

                          #42
                          Originally posted by FiXeL
                          Get something with atleast 850 psi output, 68ci/1.1L carbon fiber tank. (4500psi/300bar) Crossfire regs are one of the best out there. I use a 68ci Stako tank with Guerilla Air Ambush HP reg, also very nice. Don't get a LP or Myth reg, those won't have enough output for a mag. A full 68ci, 4500psi tank should give you enough air for about 1000-1200 shots.

                          Any hopper will do on a tac, aslong it's not the shake and rattle kind. Revvies should be fast enough for a mech, but personally i preffer the halo. Turn it on at the start of the day and forget about putting it on and off. Feeds fast enough even for a pneumag and is not consuming much battery power. The only downside is that you will have to file down the feedneck to fit it in the stock feedneck of the tac. If you get a revvy, you won't have to do this and maybe this is the better choice for you.

                          tanks for the help but what does this mean?

                          "you will have to file down the feedneck to fit it in the stock feedneck of the tac"

                          i dont know what file down is..

                          and what a revvy?

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                          • ThePixelGuru
                            Guru of Pixels
                            • May 2005
                            • 1461

                            #43
                            Originally posted by d-paint
                            tanks for the help but what does this mean?

                            "you will have to file down the feedneck to fit it in the stock feedneck of the tac"

                            i dont know what file down is..

                            and what a revvy?
                            To file something down is to shave a little bit of it off with sandpaper or a file. Some hoppers are just slightly too big to fit in some feednecks, so occasionally you need to remove a little bit of material to get them to fit.

                            A Revvy is a Viewloader Revolution hopper. There are several types of hoppers, the main three being gravity, agitated and force-feed. Gravity hoppers are just empty inside and the balls rattle around on their own until they fall down into the marker. Agitated hoppers are pretty much the same thing but with a little paddle in it that spins and knocks paint down into the marker. A Revvy is an agitated hopper. Force-feed hoppers apply constant pressure on the balls and push them continuously down into the marker. A Halo is an example of a force-feed hopper; force-feeds like the Halo are capable of extremely high feed rates. Rough estimates would be that gravity feed would get you about 8bps, agitated gets about 14bps, and force-feed gets about 20bps or more. Obviously getting a higher feed rate than what you actually shoot will be more reliable, but you should be fine with any agitated or force-feed hopper (unless you install some trigger assist system, like pneumatics, electronics or electro-pneumatics).

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                            • d-paint
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 55

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
                              To file something down is to shave a little bit of it off with sandpaper or a file. Some hoppers are just slightly too big to fit in some feednecks, so occasionally you need to remove a little bit of material to get them to fit.

                              A Revvy is a Viewloader Revolution hopper. There are several types of hoppers, the main three being gravity, agitated and force-feed. Gravity hoppers are just empty inside and the balls rattle around on their own until they fall down into the marker. Agitated hoppers are pretty much the same thing but with a little paddle in it that spins and knocks paint down into the marker. A Revvy is an agitated hopper. Force-feed hoppers apply constant pressure on the balls and push them continuously down into the marker. A Halo is an example of a force-feed hopper; force-feeds like the Halo are capable of extremely high feed rates. Rough estimates would be that gravity feed would get you about 8bps, agitated gets about 14bps, and force-feed gets about 20bps or more. Obviously getting a higher feed rate than what you actually shoot will be more reliable, but you should be fine with any agitated or force-feed hopper (unless you install some trigger assist system, like pneumatics, electronics or electro-pneumatics).


                              thnaks alot i understood perfectly..

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                              • d-paint
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 55

                                #45
                                hey i have one more question about the hpa tank,
                                for the tac i need a 850 output right? i have 2 tanks 1 that has 850 output
                                and the other that has 3000 psi.. is it atleast one right for it..and even if i dont get a regulator right away is it ok?
                                thanks

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