so, we are gonna try this again. asking for donations

[brycelarson]

how much does the song and dance cost?

But in all reality if PayPal wil llet me (I've had issues with it in the past) I'll send a few dollars your way. At least you are trying to make a diffrence.

We're still doing further testing to determine how much the song and dance will cost....

But on a serious note - thanks. We're excited to keep this ball rolling. We've got a ton of good suggestions for future testing and we've got plenty of ideas of our own.

We've gotten several offers of help from other local people. I think that if this keeps growing as quickly as it seems to be it won't be long until CP and I aren't the ones doing the majority of the testing - which would be really cool.

We both would love to see a day where we provide a place to publish testing for conversation, for criticism and to inform the general public, but don't necessarily produce all of it.

We'll keep doing our tests - but optimally, there would be other people doing other valid, scientific tests all over the place. There are certainly questions that I have that I don't have the background or equipment to test. If we pool the resources of the several thousand members of the online community with access to skills and equipment we can certainly produce some credible and fascinating results.

And yes, we are trying to make a difference.

[cockerpunk]

well said! and thank you to anyone who has donated!

you can tell that bryce makes a living talking to poeple, not crunching numbers with other number crunchers ... it takes all kinds!

he is talking about some very exciting stuff, mainly our upcomming forum section on the new TechPB.com forums. yes, i got the idea orginally from "deep blue" right here on AO. the goal is the same, to understand the physics of paintball and to take a critical stance and apply some science to the claims made by manufaturers everwhere.

however, the metthod is goign to be rather different. instead of simply begging TOm to post more sweet stuff from the exciting AGD filing cabinet (no joke, im sure i could spend weeks digging though it), the goal is to get a community of players who are interested to do tests, discuss results, fomulate new test ideas, and with a community of players, all contributing expertice, experince, equipment, or finacially, we can really get somewhere.

pipe dreams ... yes, probably.

but we are putting our butts on the line for it

[questionful]

I hope this really goes somewhere, it's a great idea.

[snoopay700]

As soon as i get some money in the bank i'll send whatever meager amount i can your way.