F.E.A.Rs Review of the new BT TM-7

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  • Spider-TW
    U R techno-literate!

    • Oct 2006
    • 3554

    #16
    Originally posted by trevorjk
    Enhander, i know the eggy is set to 17bps, but it does not maintain that rate of fire. try with a Halo and you notice a higher rate of fire instantly. every egg i have ever used only had a sustained rate of around 13-14 on a good day.
    I believe that. My son could regularly out shoot his eggy with a modded piranha and my classic pneumag, but neither one should be going over 17 bps. He is considerably faster than my common 10-11, but he is definitely under the 19 RT bps of my mag.

    Out shooting your loader with a piranha R6 - just sad all the way around.

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    • Enhander
      Registered User
      • Mar 2007
      • 483

      #17
      Thanks for the feedback all! Please note this is a work in progress and all the kinks will be worked out. I just wanted to get this info out quick and into some ballers hands!

      I dunno what people are complaining about the front grip being wobbly for. Mine is extremely tight on there and I had a fun time getting it off the marker the first time. My only complaint about it is it's hollow, feels cheap, and is only two position. However it is still nice and I would much rather have it on there than not getting anything at all.

      A new video is planned to be done this weekend. The video will include a V35 Halo B and a Pulse shooting in Full Auto mode. We will be shooting at a wooden target so no more bounces!
      Last edited by Enhander; 07-29-2008, 06:45 AM.

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      • Ninjeff
        it only takes one.
        • Jan 2007
        • 1205

        #18
        great post. I was thinking about the BT Delta, or this, what would you recommend?

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        • insixdays777
          Long Live AGD
          • Mar 2004
          • 857

          #19
          best thing about these things is that they will take the BT Rip Clip halo....!

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          • Enhander
            Registered User
            • Mar 2007
            • 483

            #20
            Originally posted by Ninjeff
            great post. I was thinking about the BT Delta, or this, what would you recommend?
            We have a Delta review video in production as we speak and it will be up shortly. Between the TM-7 and the Delta I would take the TM-7 any day of the week. That is of course if money is not a factor.

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            • Ninjeff
              it only takes one.
              • Jan 2007
              • 1205

              #21
              i was on the fence, but i think the mode selector switch sends me over the edge. That is one badiss feature.

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              • trevorjk
                <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                • Dec 2002
                • 4324

                #22
                Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
                How wobbly is that front grip, though? That's the one thing I hear from everyone who's tried one, seems pretty sloppy for them to do that if all they did was make a new shell. Well, that and the stock not going in far enough to lock, that's kinda sloppy, too...
                like any adjustable on the fly forgrip or stock that is relatively cheaply made, it does have a little side to side slop along with front and back. yes it does lock into its position very nicely but that little bit of slop annoys me.

                as for the stock, there should be a lever between the 2 guide arms on the stock that should lock it into place.


                - not to take any credit or glory from enhander, but if anyone wants more pics or details ill gladly help Enhander out. as long as the guns are not sold from our store.
                t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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                • Enhander
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 483

                  #23
                  Originally posted by trevorjk
                  like any adjustable on the fly forgrip or stock that is relatively cheaply made, it does have a little side to side slop along with front and back. yes it does lock into its position very nicely but that little bit of slop annoys me.

                  as for the stock, there should be a lever between the 2 guide arms on the stock that should lock it into place.


                  - not to take any credit or glory from enhander, but if anyone wants more pics or details ill gladly help Enhander out. as long as the guns are not sold from our store.
                  It's all good man, I'm just trying to help people out same as you.

                  As for the stock comment above I think he was reffering to my comment that when you push the stock all the way into the gun it will not lock into position. You can just grab the butt of the stock and pull it out without pushing the lever to the side. There is a place for the stock to lock into place in that position, but the stock can't slide in far enough for the lever to lock into it. It doesn't really effect anything so I don't know if they did this on purpose to allow the stock to be extended quicker from that position or if it was a design flaw.

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                  • going_home
                    Hebrews 13:8

                    • Dec 2004
                    • 8345

                    #24
                    Poor Quality

                    My experience with BT is their stuff is poor quality.
                    Dont ever think BT is Tippmann rugged because its not.
                    I bought a new BT4 for a kid at church that couldnt afford a marker.
                    He didnt even play one game and the bolt came loose flopping around.
                    Even with the manual no one could fix it, had to send it back to BT.
                    Now their customer service is good, they fixed it and sent it back, but
                    not even being able to play one game with a new marker before it breaks
                    didnt impress me at all. I would never buy anything BT again.
                    My two cents.

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                    • Enhander
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 483

                      #25
                      Originally posted by going_home
                      My experience with BT is their stuff is poor quality.
                      Dont ever think BT is Tippmann rugged because its not.
                      I bought a new BT4 for a kid at church that couldnt afford a marker.
                      He didnt even play one game and the bolt came loose flopping around.
                      Even with the manual no one could fix it, had to send it back to BT.
                      Now their customer service is good, they fixed it and sent it back, but
                      not even being able to play one game with a new marker before it breaks
                      didnt impress me at all. I would never buy anything BT again.
                      My two cents.

                      Im sorry to hear that. Maybe he just got a lemon marker. Every BT marker I have picked up has preformed flawlessly. The TM7 outperformed our DM7 on our testing day. To be fair to the DM-7 not many guns we own like the paint we were using. The TM-7 loved it though. Hence why we decided to use it all up.
                      Last edited by Enhander; 07-30-2008, 06:58 AM.

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                      • lather
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 591

                        #26
                        Nice review.

                        I picked up one last week, and there is some play in the foregrip, but it feels very solid (if that makes sense). Personal preferance but the play doesnt bother me at all. The ability to use the tourny lock without opening up the marker is a nice touch too. There is a small access point to the boards tourney lock under the gun.

                        There is a minor issue for me. Some after market barrels fit a little tight when between the threads and the shroud. I lost the jewels off my Fibur barrel when switching out barrels. Not really a big deal but I wish there was a bit more space between the shell and the barrel threading.
                        "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

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                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Enhander
                          There is a place for the stock to lock into place in that position, but the stock can't slide in far enough for the lever to lock into it. It doesn't really effect anything so I don't know if they did this on purpose to allow the stock to be extended quicker from that position or if it was a design flaw.
                          Initially it was a mistake, but then in use we grew to like it like that so we left it. I find that with the stock collapsed you don't need to lock it into place and it's nice to be able to grab it and just pull it out.

                          We are in some discussions about whether or not to make it lock in though. I may be about to lose out on that one.
                          Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                          • Enhander
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 483

                            #28
                            To be honest..just leave it. In my opinion its very convientent to just grab the stock and pull it out, as opposed to having to unlock it first.

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                            • manike
                              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3820

                              #29
                              I agree, but I think I've lost that battle. Anyone in the future that wants that feature could always fill in the slot in the stock arms...

                              To be honest I run mine without the stock now and like it because I can get in behind the gun. I won the battle to put the stock blanking plate in the box stock. Some battles you win, some you lose.

                              I'm a big guy so I really like it with the foregrip further forwards and a tank extender and a 68ci tank. Feels just mean in my hands then.

                              Have you tried putting the foregrip on the side picattiney rail yet? It's fun shooting it like that. Reminds me of the old Sten guns and it's quite cool.
                              Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                              • trevorjk
                                <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 4324

                                #30
                                so your saying you run a 68/4500 on the gun itself? with no stock? can we get some pictures of this please?

                                the only TM-7 i get to look at and review is sitting on the Shop Wall so i cant take it apart and fiddle with it
                                t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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