What are the best Mag upgrades? Cocker? :)

[Miscue]

I thought about how different these answers are... and thought it was kinda funny:

Alright, as best as you can list the best upgrades for a Mag, and then for a Cocker. Describe/compare the end-result guns. :)

[Jonno06]

mag:RetRo Valve,intelliframe,z grip,new barrel,powerfeed,

cocker:hinge trigger(in my opinion),new barrel,back block,bolts,front pneumatics,threaded timing rod,um....thats all i can think of....what do i win???(emag????*wink,wink*)

[LaW]

mag: leave it alone :)

cocker: leave it alone :)

[ChrisRT]

I would go with:

Mag Upgrade: -- Cocker Upgrade:
Retro Valve -- Hinge Trigger
Freak Barrel -- Freak Barrel
Intelli Frame/Feed-- Front Pneus
Super bolt -- Halo
Warp w/ Halo -- Shocktech Bolt/hammer
Kapp DZ 2 -- Kapp DZ 2
45K flatline -- 45k Flatline
--------------- upgraded timing rod
---------------- Personal tech on hand at all times to fix the cocker after each game.

Milling and annodizing along with back blocks on the cocker would not improve performance, in my opion. With these set-ups both guns would shoot great. As far as triggers the retro is great for mag and the hinge is best for cocker. Barrels are the same. The mag may shoot faster and have a lower profile, but the cocker would be no sloch either.

** And a Kapp Shorti Just for FOO

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by ChrisRT
I would go with:

Mag Upgrade: -- Cocker Upgrade:
Retro Valve -- Hinge Trigger
Freak Barrel -- Freak Barrel
Intelli Frame/Feed-- Front Pneus
Super bolt -- Halo
Warp w/ Halo -- Shocktech Bolt
Kapp DZ 2 -- Kapp DZ 2
45K flatline -- 45k Flatline

Milling and annodizing along with back blocks on the cocker would not improve performance, in my opion. With these set-ups both guns would shoot great.

I'd say that too... Well, maybe everything except the dz 2. I'd get a shorter drop. I would get a new hammer/bolt kit actually, not just the new bolt.

AND... WOW! A 45k Flatline! Just kidding, I know what you meant.

[FeelTheRT]

there's no 'the best' Cocker upgrades, there are so many that there can be many good combinations, thats why each cocker is unique:).


-=Mag=-
Intelliframe
barrel
HPA
long drop such as KAP or Wapred Sportz
forgrip

-=Cocker=-
WGP Hinge
Boomer
HPA
shortdrop or no drop
AA reg
ANS Jackhammer LPR
STO 4way
STO Ram
Shocktech bolt
LPC (anykind)
light main spring
light valve spring



The set of cocker upgrades are just some of my personal picks. You put in what you want, play around, make urs different, thats the fun of a cocker :)

[nutz]

mag...

intelliframe
retro
warp/halo
warp body
benchy body rail
superbolt
freak barrel
dye dropforward
ne tank

[i-luv-my-rt]

Everyone has already stated all the mag upgrades so i will just list the cockers. If i was to start with a stock 2k2 vertical feed cocker this is what i would get:

Ying-Yang bolt
body milled to fit p-block
macdev red valve
maddmann spring kits
eclipse hinge
shocktech bomb 3-way
sonic LPR
titanium rods

This with some milling and anno would be my dream cocker.

[InfinatyBPS]

Mag:
1. Retro - Removes shootdown up to 26bps and allows you to shoot faster because of the trigger bounce.

2. Intelliframe(only grip worth mentioning) - Will help ROF if you can shoot faster with a lighter and shorter pull

3. Barrel - A must for all markers, I perfer CP or Dye.

4. Expansion chamber - IMO Nasty looking, make it look like you have a spyder. But will help alot if ur running off CO2.

5. Forgrip - Most people just perfer to have somthing for their other hand to hold onto...

Cocker:
1.Pneus
1. LPR(low pressure regulator) - Somthing as the rock, sonic lpr or Shocktech FGP will allow you to adjust your cocking pressure and perhaps make the pressure more consistant.
2. Ram - A well built and designed ram may allow you to cycal faster or run at a lower cocking pressure. The ANS miniram is the fastast there is. But the STO is more popular because it has the ability to be rebuilt.
3. 3-Way - A good 3 way will help stop leaks and shorten and/or smoothen your trigger pull. The bomb is the most popular because it's shortness. And WGP just came out with a new 3 way which works completely different than a regular 3 way, check out the cocker forum at PBC for more information.

2. Regulator - The regulator regulates the pressure going into the marker. I have an ANS Gen X2 regulator and It has done nothing but good things for my cocker, very consistant, and very easy to adjust. I also reccomend MacDev Gladiator regulators but if you have a preset tank you have to have it sent in to be adjusted to a lower output pressure.

3. Grip frame - Very important upgrade and should be one of the first things you upgrade because the stock plastic one CAN BREAK, I have seen it happen many times. Probably the best sliding trigger frame there is is an ANS Quick Fire which have a very short and smooth pull. There are also new pivot or hinge frames, on the low end there are the WGP's and the Shockteck frames, but now everyone is making a pivot frame, and most supercede the 2 i mentioned above. There are KAPP, new Shocktechs, Eclipse, Dye and ANS is coming out with one soon.

4. Bolts - Well along with most other markers the bolt is a very important upgrade. Some of the best bolts are the Lighting bolt, from AKA I beleive, The Superfly Bolt, from Shocktech and the Ying-Yang from MacDev(I think). Most of these may help make your marker LP and mabe create less kick.

5. Barrels - Same as mags...

6. Loaders - A very important upgrade for any marker, the most popular is the X-Board revvy, Ricochet, and the Halo, and also an option is the Warp feed.

What I would PERFER:
Mag:
Custom Powdercoat PF MAg
Cp Barrel Kit
Intelliframe - Chrome
CP Lighting Drop
Retro Valve
Kapp Forgrip
Revvy

Cocker:
Milled and Anoed Vert Feed Cocker
STO Ram
Micro Rock or Sonic LPR
Bomb 3 Way
Dye Hinge Frame- Chrome
CP Barrel kit
Superfly bolt
Kapp Backblock
Kapp Twisted Cocking Rod
AKA Hammer Kit
12v X Board revvy
MacDev RED valve
ANS Gen X2 Regulator

Conclusion:
Both will be light, fast shooting, consitant, accurate and nice, I personaly would perfer the cocker over the mag because it would be custom milled and such. And I like cockers.