New Micromag Body Poll

[outreach]

in regards to above post, 5/6 why do we want to make the micro mag bigger, mines egoframed and people always coment on how great it feels because of how tight a set up it is, i personally dont want a bigger gun. as even though its small it still has a solid feel wich most small guns lack. i may be wrong in my head about the size difference, as ive only owned micro mags

[Mayvik]

Agreed, it's supposed to be "Micro"; if you want to stick e-mag lowers on it, an adapter isn't going to kill you, but those of us who'd want to keep it mechanical/pneumatic might not want a bunch of extra meat on there we can't easily remove solely to support lowers we're never planning to install.

[GoatBoy]

Sleek design, dovetail on top, a few screw holes for accessories, warp/vert convertible.






Ah well.


I guess all we're going to see is the same-old same-old.

[Chronobreak]

stealth

macromag

[MANN]

.03 (there are alot of good points)

i personally dont want a bigger gun. as even though its small it still has a solid feel wich most small guns lack. i may be wrong in my head about the size difference, as ive only owned micro mags

All automags are the same length. Mini, micro, Emags, Xmags, Etc. If you take a "automag" and put a freak back on the marker (twistlock if it is a twistlock body; cocker threaded if it is any other body) it measures the EXACT same from the back of the valve to the tip of the barrel. To date I still dont understand why AGD called the mini a mini or why PTP called the micro a micro. I guess some type of marketing scheme.

The difference in the body length of a RTP or am/mm is ~ 7/8", and the real benifit of this is to allow for any foregrip with any frame.

I am not sure about how others are planning on setting up the new body, but Logic UMF frames, Zgrips, Ygrips, emag lowers, and some intelliframes (old style) will not work on AM/MM length rails if you are planning on using a foregrip.

I am not sure about everyone else, but IMO one of the best things about AGD products (after quality & durability) is the versatility. Being able to make the marker fit the user. Not the other way around. I mean what other marker can you have 6 different angled frames & put the hopper on any side of the marker.

IMO if I want a "small" marker I will grab my Invert mini.

Using an RTP length body/rail combo will allow for the widest array of users. Along with some of the other points I made (RTP sear, feedneck, etc). And remember we can always remove material if we want something smaller.

cue www.lukescustoms.com commercial

[maniacmechanic]

" MANN " "Using an RTP length body/rail combo will allow for the widest array of users. Along with some of the other points I made (RTP sear, feedneck, etc). And remember we can always remove material if we want something smaller"

I am in total agreement with Mann on this one , plans for mine ; a set of PTP E Mag lowers

[GRimm]

I personaly want a combination of a microemag body and an SFL body. Well what I realy want is a body with an interchangeable breach, ive always loved the idea but how am I supposed to get ahold of an SFL... So I say design a more retro/sleek body and offer it in different models, some just centerfeed for people who dont use warps and one with a breach for those of us who do use warps. Even if the breach causes the price of the body to go up I still think it'd be well worth it, lets say it costs 250 for the new body with a breach, and 150 for just a regular body either vert or warp. If you dont use a warp feed, then buy the vert body. If you were planning on using a warp then you would still have to buy a vert body incase your warp fails, that means you will have spent 300 on two bodies instead of a modular one that costs 250.

[DevilMan]

Smooth Sleek & Light... Not all boxy. I don't like boxy.

Hope to see the new ideas soon... ahhhhh...

DM

[GRimm]

Any updates, im realy looking foward to seeing the new body.

[Tracy_ptp]

Any updates, im realy looking foward to seeing the new body.

Forest has been working on the the design, We like what he has so far. Once the drawings are complete will will be posting it for all to see. And a blurb about its features. I don't see it taking too much longer. hopefully by the end of this month. It takes a little time to get the cad drawings done.

[punkncat]

I honestly wonder if there are enough mag enthusiasts left to justify a run of new mag bodies on a large scale?

Many of the recent "private label" body runs have been pretty small. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember y'all (PTP) having mag bodies left over up until fairly recently from runs done well back. Perhaps just the "outdated" design as it were.

But honestly, if you are going to the trouble to design and release this new PTP, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you going to stick to small runs/batches and sell what you can to simply pay for the process, or are you anticipating doing a large run and reviving something?
If this is offered in an Emag style, are there going to be more emags made to make complete markers, or is this simply a body project for "upgrade" purposes?

Seems to me like stepping off into a new project for an aging product is shaky ground in this ecomomy. There is another user here who just developed a great looking body/rail kit and from my take on it, is already having to consider a way to make it cheaper simply to market it and find interested BUYERS, not just people who find it interesting.

Y'all are savvy business people who have been around the block. You have been at this a while, and I am not trying to nay say anything, just my couple of pennies.

[doc_Zox]

microemag body and an SFL body.

exactly what i was thinking about last night

Zaks old SFL is amazing

[Tracy_ptp]

I honestly wonder if there are enough mag enthusiasts left to justify a run of new mag bodies on a large scale?

But honestly, if you are going to the trouble to design and release this new PTP, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you going to stick to small runs/batches and sell what you can to simply pay for the process, or are you anticipating doing a large run and reviving something? If this is offered in an Emag style, are there going to be more emags made to make complete markers, or is this simply a body project for "upgrade" purposes?

Seems to me like stepping off into a new project for an aging product is shaky ground in this ecomomy. There is another user here who just developed a great looking body/rail kit and from my take on it, is already having to consider a way to make it cheaper simply to market it and find interested BUYERS, not just people who find it interesting.

Wow!!! Let's see, where to begin..... No there probably isn't enough enthusiasts left to do something on a large scale because most of the paintball generation nowadays is under 20 years old and have no clue what a mag is anyway.

I started getting calls and emails from fellow maggers that really wanted us to make them a new body. I told them I would if we had enough people interested. Unlike most of the larger companies out there now, we actually want to give the customer what they want. PTP has been around for a very long time and I think the reason people like us is that we haven't really changed over the years. And the quality of our products haven't changed. We still care and we still take care of our customers "personally". If you call our office your call will be answered by either myself (90%) or by Forest. Tell me how many of the companies left from 15+ years ago still personally answer their phone lines.....Most of these guys have gotten big and don't have time, or they have gone corporate, and most of them have now gone to China to build their products. We have our own CNC machine shop so I don't have to "out-source" the products we build, I just have to make sure it makes sense. I personally take pride when I get calls or emails from our customers telling us how much they like our product. So doing this from a "business" standpoint probably doesn't make sense to many people, but doing it for the loyal customers out there makes us feel good.

I hope all of you PTP fans out there know how much we appreciate your loyalty over the years!!! I hope this project will be as well liked as all the others.

Tracy

[maniacmechanic]

Wow!!! Let's see, where to begin..... No there probably isn't enough enthusiasts left to do something on a large scale because most of the paintball generation nowadays is under 20 years old and have no clue what a mag is anyway.

I started getting calls and emails from fellow maggers that really wanted us to make them a new body. I told them I would if we had enough people interested. Unlike most of the larger companies out there now, we actually want to give the customer what they want. PTP has been around for a very long time and I think the reason people like us is that we haven't really changed over the years. And the quality of our products haven't changed. We still care and we still take care of our customers "personally". If you call our office your call will be answered by either myself (90%) or by Forest. Tell me how many of the companies left from 15+ years ago still personally answer their phone lines.....Most of these guys have gotten big and don't have time, or they have gone corporate, and most of them have now gone to China to build their products. We have our own CNC machine shop so I don't have to "out-source" the products we build, I just have to make sure it makes sense. I personally take pride when I get calls or emails from our customers telling us how much they like our product. So doing this from a "business" standpoint probably doesn't make sense to many people, but doing it for the loyal customers out there makes us feel good.

I hope all of you PTP fans out there know how much we appreciate your loyalty over the years!!! I hope this project will be as well liked as all the others.

Tracy

WHOO HOO man I like that answer , thats the big problem with a lot of PB company's now days ; they really don't care , it's all about dollars on a large scale , the cheaper they can make it , the more profit they make , Quality , there are still a couple companys that care , but they are small scale & seem to like it that way

[Sumthinwicked]

find my groovey frame tracy!