History of the Pneumag

**Rudz** · 10-22-2008, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by Enemy

hmm I thought the first big rush of real interest for Pnuemags was when Deadlywind started in with the HairTrigger.. that eventually got trumped by PTP and their patent for the pnueframes, but as far as I can recall the Blue Karta mag of Colins was the first pnuemag video, and produced the most hype around the whole idea.

that was before my time, but when i came here in 05, is when the diy guys started making theyre own, i know the hair trigger was a big thing, but sadly nothig ever came of it

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 05:10 PM

We do have the first patent and we were already working on it before 2K. This is a very touchy project for all of us involved. It's a shame that you can't really say what you want in such a political world, but that is what it boils down to. We have no bad things to say about others and hopefully it will all work out in the end (even if it is way behind schedule)!!!

Tracy

**snoopay700** · 10-23-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by tracy_ptp

We do have the first patent and we were already working on it before 2K. This is a very touchy project for all of us involved. It's a shame that you can't really say what you want in such a political world, but that is what it boils down to. We have no bad things to say about others and hopefully it will all work out in the end (even if it is way behind schedule)!!!

Tracy

I think behind schedule passed a year or two ago.

**Hilltop Customs** · 10-23-2008, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by snoopay700

I think behind schedule passed a year or two ago.

hey at least they didnt take pre-orders.....

**snoopay700** · 10-23-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Hilltop Customs

hey at least they didnt take pre-orders.....

True, that would just be a whole other devils den sort of mess at this point haha, only PTP would probably have the balls to admit they were wrong and refund the money or something in a situation like that.

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by snoopay700

I think behind schedule passed a year or two ago.

Had no choice!! If you would like to do what we do then go for it!! You had better have money, a lawyer and a lot of patience!! Most players don't understand what goes on in the backround, but believe me it is very frustrating. We really like to do what we can for the customer, but sometimes there are glitches and boy is this a big one. I really can't and won't get into details. Our loyal customers know we have their best interest at heart and that is all that matters to us!!!.

Tracy

**Pneumagger** · 10-23-2008, 06:01 PM

If you have the first patent n it, why not just produce it?
If you make it better and priced competively, you should have no problem with competition.

The R&D for this, being a few years old, might as well be considered a sunk cost at this point.
Just make it and move forward.

**snoopay700** · 10-23-2008, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by tracy_ptp

Had no choice!! If you would like to do what we do then go for it!! You had better have money, a lawyer and a lot of patience!! Most players don't understand what goes on in the backround, but believe me it is very frustrating. We really like to do what we can for the customer, but sometimes there are glitches and boy is this a big one. I really can't and won't get into details. Our loyal customers know we have their best interest at heart and that is all that matters to us!!!.

Tracy

Whoa whoa, calm down haha, i wasn't attacking you, that was meant in good fun. I'm not mad about this and i don't blame you for the delay because i don't know what was going on and i'm sure you guys have a valid reason, i was just making a joke about it, now if you had accepted preorders then my post would have been very different, but it wasn't meant to be nasty, sorry.

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Pneumagger

If you have the first patent n it, why not just produce it?
If you make it better and priced competively, you should have no problem with competition.

The R&D for this, being a few years old, might as well be considered a sunk cost at this point.
Just make it and move forward.

Because the way society is now just trying to get past the lawyer

is crazy.. You have to do things a certain way and act a certain way and it just

makes me angry. Everything has to be done proper. We try and follow the rules and I know there a lot out there that don't, But we do and that is probably why we are not one of the one that have made it BIG and making the BIG bucks off the consumer like YOU!! But that wasn't our intention in the first place. You guys have no idea what a huge conscience Forest has. He has always wanted to make things for a fair price with good quality for the customer. and half the times he gives away the store (that is why most people are not allowed to talk to him, I have kids to feed and a mortgage to pay) Some of the things you people pay for is ridicules!! and then we get criticized for not taking your money... go figure!!

**Rudz** · 10-23-2008, 09:18 PM

whoa trcy, needed to vent huh? :rofl: we love ptp, and we know you guys will do everything you can for the costumer,, alot of us dont know whats going on behind the scenes, but it doesnt take a genious to figure out that something isnt right, we all hope it works out for ptp, and we expect great things from you guys

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by snoopay700

Whoa whoa, calm down haha, i wasn't attacking you, that was meant in good fun. I'm not mad about this and i don't blame you for the delay because i don't know what was going on and i'm sure you guys have a valid reason, i was just making a joke about it, now if you had accepted preorders then my post would have been very different, but it wasn't meant to be nasty, sorry.

Not trying to take anything out on anyone!! Just frustrated over the system overall!! I don't know how many around here have been around for longer than say 15 years, but things were different back then, and it was nice!! We all were like familiy, and going to tournaments was like going to a family reunion. It's not like that anymore. And nobody knows anybody. It's sad!!

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by rudz

whoa trcy, needed to vent huh? :rofl: we love ptp, and we know you guys will do everything you can for the costumer,, alot of us dont know whats going on behind the scenes, but it doesnt take a genious to figure out that something isnt right, we all hope it works out for ptp, and we expect great things from you guys

We will definitely try. I wasn't trying to vent on any one person. I just want all of the people to know that we have been trying, it just hasn't always worked in our favor. We are trying to work in different angles!! It will come!

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by snoopay700

Whoa whoa, calm down haha, i wasn't attacking you, that was meant in good fun. I'm not mad about this and i don't blame you for the delay because i don't know what was going on and i'm sure you guys have a valid reason, i was just making a joke about it, now if you had accepted preorders then my post would have been very different, but it wasn't meant to be nasty, sorry.

No worries!! I am just a little wound up tonight!!

**behemoth** · 10-23-2008, 09:36 PM

Xanax?

**Tracy_ptp** · 10-23-2008, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by behemoth

Xanax?

Got any??

History of the Pneumag

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