E-Mag's being choppers

[liigod]

My bud sent me a link to this form... eventho Im not a fan of AO anymore really. Mags chop. If you dont fire that fast yer fine, if the ball is in the chamber then it wont chop. but it will NOT stop on a ball, if a ball is fed half way... it WILL break. Once anti-chop eyes come out then there should be realy no problem anymore, because it wont fire if a ball is half fed. Warp fed guys dont have this problem because their systems feed so fast that they dont HALF feed. The one reason i never bought an e-mag, remembe this the ONE reason is because they chop if they half feed. Powerfeed doesent have much of a problem with this.. mostly vert. Vert feed mags have a good deal of blowback which means that the balls can not feed fast enough. I have owned mags and cocker and shockers and about every major gun you can thinkg of with the exception of the angel, excal, or a matrix. I h8 angels... i loath them. But thats not what im talking about. if you like warp feed then go for the e mag, if you like powerfeed... and i dont because i cant stand having a tube across the top of my gun in my face. vert feed is cool but it does not work well, maybe the superbolt will help solve blowback when you first use it, but when it wears more air will escape and allow for blow back. Basically if you want to use anything other than a warp, maybe a halo on vert might keep up i havent tested that it will break. Halo on powerfeed will definatly feed fast enough, but who wants a tube like that? seems like a jankety retrofit to solve a problem that lies somewhere else. I think that I am a more neutral than most of the people on this forum. The emag is a GREAT gun in every other respect other than chopping. It doesnt blow balls with a correct barrel, its faster than anyone will ever need... id say 20 is just friggen silly,b ut yea it can do more. The trigger is awesom. The manual backup is the pimp shiz. But i will not give in and say a it will pinch a half fed ball. Cus that is denying physics whihc is something that people on this form seem to not have a problem with.

[Vil3]

well i had an e-mag and am getting rid of mine for chopping problems... it wasn't paint-barrel match it wasn't even nubbins it wasn't o-rings and it DEFINENTLY was not speed... I had a HALO limited it to 10(-i myself can shoot about 14 believe it or not.. thats not the point at 10bps with a HALO which easily can do 10 (most of the time around 18) and all i got was chopping right where the balls enter the barrel. I tried all the foamie bolts, i had a warp-and that just chopped even more. All i can say is for me all i got from it was chopping-but that was just me dont base your buying the gun on me

[Chupas2]

I do believe you when you say you can shoot 14 bps.

[LaW]

I don't know why some people have such horrible chopping problems...... I shoot pretty fast (I am not going to throw out some magical number) and I've never chopped... I have a warp/revvy setup and have used superbolt/ans foamie most of the time.

[AGD]

I think many MANY people confuse chopping with breaking paint down the barrel. They think that any time they break a ball it's because they chopped.

Chopping happens only when the ball has not fed all the way when you pull the trigger, or your nubbins are allowing a double feed, plain and simple. Either your out shooting your hopper or short stroking the trigger. If you have an Emag and set the max rate to 10 bps then it is probably a double feed.

Chopping ALWAYS has the characteristic of paint up the feed tube. No paint up the tube means it was a barrel break.

Barrel breaks can happen any time for many reasons. This has been particularly true in the last year since the Bounce Test has shown paint to be particularly fragile. The focus of our extensive research in the last 6 weeks has been on this issue and we feel we have made significant progress. Stand by while we do the final testing.

All markers can and do break the super fragile paint. Pro's are just putting up with it to insure no bounces. You have to know many things about your paint and equpiment to play paintball today.

AGD

[Phil]

I get so tired of people whining about chopping with mags. I have owned an old style RT and currently own an E-Mag. I have NEVER chopped a paintball with either gun. If you are chopping balls with a mechanical trigger automag then you are probably short stroking. IF you are chopping balls with your E-Mag in E mode then something is not working properly. When I got my RT and was dry firing the gun that first day I shortstroked the trigger almost immediately. Then I said to myself, "Wow, when I do that (didn't know what short stroking was at the time) it makes a funny pppffffttt sound. I shouldn't do that in the future". All you have to do is let your trigger return fully and you will never chop a ball assuming all of your equipment is functioning properly. If you are shortstroking an automag with a mechanical trigger YOU are most likely the weakest link.

[Hasty8]

To anyone who wants to get rid of their Emags...

Send me an email. I'll offer a decent price even though your marker is "so messed up it constantly chops"

[liigod]

well if its probably a barrel break... and low pressure does not make a difference in barrel breaks.... then how is it that my shocker and electro cockers have never broken a ball in the barrel and my mag likes to (acording to this thread) break paint in the barrel? It because the cocker allows the paint to feed with its anti chop eye and the shocker i have pinches rather than breaks. If the mag which is (vert feed by the way) half feeds a ball its guna break that ball, and saying that most of these are barrel breaks says that mags are harder on pain than other guns. I like you tom and respect you but i need to clarify why people belive why mags chop to people rather than blaming it on paint or feeding. Basicaly the mag is pickey with the paint you put into it.. and if you dont put that paint into it fast enough. Other guns compensate for the paint. Simple as that. but emags are sick

[PowerFedMag]

huh?

What the funk are you trying to say Sammy boy?