Two vs. One Piece Barrels

[Nick28]

Anyone have any comments on two vs. one piece barrels. I currently shoot a DYE Ultralite on my Emag, .688 with 14" tip. The DYE shoots like a dream. Recently I been looking into Custom Products and thinking about picking up a barrel. They go for $30 new.

On a side note, I've had terrible luck with my Emag I recently purchased off AO. Two times I have played have been dismal. That includes placing last in a tournament, back in December my team placed second. During an open day I was more like a target than anything else. Anyway that was just venting, what about that barrel...

[secretweaponevan]

I prefer a 1 piece.

I use a CP also, and love it.

[cockerpunk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxWqM6WS9Q&feature=channel_page

[Chronobreak]

I prefer a 1 piece.

I use a CP also, and love it.

yeah my main barrel is a single bore CP .689

two piece barrels are nice if you want to be able to swap length or match the paint to the bore, however i usualy just go with a medium/large bore barrel so i dont have to fiddle with it at all.

i have never noticed a difference in shot groupings.

i hope my quick post saves you from watching cockerpunks confusing video

[Warwitch]

If it wouldnt be so much of a pain to travel with Id run 6 single piece barrels with various bores. Any seam or interface is going to cause air turbulance. Yet I continue to use SM kits as I like to match my paint. Maybe its jut old routine from shooting closed bolts.

[dark blade]

to be honest, there have been soooooo many threads, discussions, and test about this topic.

the 1 vs 2 piece barrel makes no difference in accuracy, ability to shoot through breaks, or even construction quality (some people think 2 pieces are always better built barrels)

the 1 thing that matters as far as accuracy is paint to barrel match. It has always been as such, and there have been test after test that prove it.

the bore is the only thing that matters, since you are using the same barrel on your emag as the other marker you honestly cant use that as a reason for coming in last. Also... i guarantee that the emag has higher tolerances and quality than the other marker.

If you buy multiple barrel bore backs or a kit, you will honestly and truthfully shoot much straighter each time.

Like i said, there are many many tests that prove this to be true.

[Watcher]

the bore is the only thing that matters, since you are using the same barrel on your emag as the other marker you honestly cant use that as a reason for coming in last. Also... i guarantee that the emag has higher tolerances and quality than the other marker.

If you buy multiple barrel bore backs or a kit, you will honestly and truthfully shoot much straighter each time.

I think he was remarking on how his E-mag is bad luck, not that the gun is bad...


Yes, I agree that the bore is the only thing that matters. BUT, on a 2 piece barrel the tip is always going to be at least as big as the biggest back. The bore is incomplete.

So the paint will fit snug down the back and will no longer be propelled and held effectively as soon as it hits the tip (usually why the tips are 100% ported) so on a 12" barrel it is effectively a 6 inch barrel with a 6 inch muzzle brake, for example.

I'll say having a kit is great, but I'd invariably get a 1 piece kit so I could have fluid bores.
I'd probably go with the 3 Lapco 1 piece barrels, personally. It'd be a $150 kit for only 3 bores but in those bores you'd get a nice range and a good complete barrel.

The only reason I see getting a 2 piece is like what Tyger did with his Snapshot barrels:
He used one barrel set for his E-mag and his Tac-One but with the E-mag he preferred a 12" barrel and with the Tac he needed an 18" because of the longbow setup.
Same backs for each, but longer/shorter tips...

[turbo chicken]

TK truths about all barrels... read and draw your own conclusions ...

http://automags.org/resource/tech/to...rrel_eff.shtml

http://automags.org/resource/tech/to...boresize.shtml

and of course cockerpunk has done some recent test ...

[jlamont2020]

see the thing about paint matching is you have to do it consistently everyone goes with the bore that is the perfect size for the paint which isn't consistent cause the paint isn't. the best way to paint match is to go with the bore just barely bigger than the paint. that way the larger paint (since not all balls are the same) is overboring rather than under.

[dark blade]

actually... the truth with barrel bore matching is that everyone tends to match 1 or 2 paintballs...

i match 10 at minimum and take an average, and seeing as underboring does not cause barrel breaks and the feed cycle is the only thing that causes barrel breaks, the best thing to do is underbore... that way you take care of the smaller bored balls.

[Watcher]

actually... the truth with barrel bore matching is that everyone tends to match 1 or 2 paintballs...

i match 10 at minimum and take an average, and seeing as underboring does not cause barrel breaks and the feed cycle is the only thing that causes barrel breaks, the best thing to do is underbore... that way you take care of the smaller bored balls.

Feed cycle doesn't cause barrel breaks, it causes chops.

Barrel breaks are called barrel breaks for a reason...

[Engus]

Usually each bag of paint is fairly consistent, but not so much in between the bags in each case of paint.

[jlamont2020]

maybe its just me but from what i'm seen underboring doesn't cause barrel breaks most of the time. the problems i've always had with underboring is accuracy. the paint seems more consistent if just barely overbored, and yes if ur paint matching, test more than the first 1 or 2 balls. but back to the original topic my favorite barrel is a 2-piece i prefer the versatility. the best that i've used has been a 16" freak back all-american front with an apex. maybe it was my laziness when it comes to barrel boring but i shoot more consistent with an over bore paint match.

[Nick28]

Thanks Guys

I have been doing my research, I seen all the videos and read countless web pages. I was looking for more of a personal feel. So over the next year or so I'll just build up a plethora of barrels.

It's my birthday Sunday and I planned on having a party down at the local field, Diehard Paintable on Saturday. I was going to call it off because the Cincinnati area just got a foot of snow but paintball in the snow may be entertaining. As long as I can get six guys to go out in 30 degree weather, I'm game.

[Thotograph]

Aye buy a plethora of barrels... thats what I did. I still can't decide which to shoot on a given day. The smoothness of the bore is important I feel. Quality barrels like lapco and dye always have nice mirrored finishes inside. There's plenty of other good companies out there. Just find what works for you. You can get Evil Pipes cheap and they have decent bores too for a kit.

As far as the whole 2 v 1 piece debate... I just wish more 2 piece barrels were made with an 8inch back. Thats the ideal effective barrel length. The redz kit has 8inch backs but I find the whole chilli pepper porting thing to be butt ugly... if stiffi made a tip for that kit I'd do it. I might widn up with one before long anyways since I'm such a barrel whore The Alien MayDay has proved to be an excellent kit for me. Smooth bores and a 7in back and carbon fiber tip make for a good all round barrel. I just wish they would make a shorter (12in) tip, 14in is alright but I prefer to shoot 12's.