My new cocker threaded barrel - designed by Tom Kaye!

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  • luke
    lukescustoms.com

    • Jan 2001
    • 8211

    #16
    My new cocker threaded barrel - designed by Tom Kaye!

    Actually, it's really his design LOL

    Wish I could have it bored for inserts...
    BUT, didn't TK say bore size was irrelevant?

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    • hitech
      Not a shedder of vortices
      • Nov 2001
      • 4775

      #17
      Originally posted by mpsd
      No, not original. Was a Mag barrel that was cut, milled (the outside diameter) and threaded for cockers. It's really well done, though.
      I had that done to the stock eMag barrel.


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      • mpsd
        Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

        • Nov 2005
        • 2778

        #18
        Originally posted by luke
        BUT, didn't TK say bore size was irrelevant?
        Well, that I don't know... What I do know, from my own experience is that having the ball matched to the barrel bore does make a huge difference in precision. Which is not true about barrel rifling, porting or lenght. And, also from my experience, the longer the insert you have, better results as well.

        Maybe what TK suggested is that the ideal barrel would be a barrel that has the same bore as the ball, which I do agree but also think it makes it more expensive and more things to carry on and off the field.

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        • mpsd
          Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

          • Nov 2005
          • 2778

          #19
          Originally posted by hitech
          I had that done to the stock eMag barrel.
          Then, show it to everyone!


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          • hitech
            Not a shedder of vortices
            • Nov 2001
            • 4775

            #20
            Originally posted by mpsd
            Then, show it to everyone!

            I'll see if I can get a few pictures this evening.

            BTW, the size of the bore (within reason) doesn't affect accuracy of a paintball AT THE SAME VELOCITY.


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            • mpsd
              Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

              • Nov 2005
              • 2778

              #21
              Originally posted by hitech
              BTW, the size of the bore (within reason) doesn't affect accuracy of a paintball AT THE SAME VELOCITY.
              Well, that I don't know. I can tell my Lapco Grey Ghost, with it's big bore barrel (I know it at least .690) shoots very unacuratly with .687 paint, while, at the same chronoed speed (280 fps), my Mag with a DW barrel and .687 insert can put the balls right where you want it.

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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #22
                Originally posted by mpsd
                Well, that I don't know. I can tell my Lapco Grey Ghost, with it's big bore barrel (I know it at least .690) shoots very inaccurately with .687 paint, while, at the same chronoed speed (280 fps), my Mag with a DW barrel and .687 insert can put the balls right where you want it.
                I'm assuming that you have not bench mounted the gun and tested each barrel. It is quite possible that you are simply a better shot with the DW barrel. I know I am generally better with a longer barrel.

                Chronoed at 280 is not the same thing as at the same speed. By that I mean at EXACTLY the same speed. Only comparing shoots that are at EXACTLY the same speed.

                So, for paintballs, the most "accurate" barrel will be the one that is the most consistent. Typically that is a loose bore, but not necessarily.

                Tom did extensive research and could find NOTHING that made a paintball more accurate AT THE SAME SPEED. That last part is important.


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                • mpsd
                  Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2778

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hitech
                  I'm assuming that you have not bench mounted the gun and tested each barrel. It is quite possible that you are simply a better shot with the DW barrel. I know I am generally better with a longer barrel.

                  Chronoed at 280 is not the same thing as at the same speed. By that I mean at EXACTLY the same speed. Only comparing shoots that are at EXACTLY the same speed.

                  So, for paintballs, the most "accurate" barrel will be the one that is the most consistent. Typically that is a loose bore, but not necessarily.

                  Tom did extensive research and could find NOTHING that made a paintball more accurate AT THE SAME SPEED. That last part is important.
                  OK. Got your point. I believe the best test then would be use the same marker, same paint and different barrel bores, either changing inserts or the whole barrel. Next time I'll try it with two inserts, one that's the same as the balls and then a larger one (take .687 paint and then try it with both the .687 insert and the .692 one). I'll try it out and will let you know.

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