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  • secretweaponevan
    Only HALF Polish!
    • Sep 2007
    • 1132

    #46
    Originally posted by fflamingmoe
    Ok guys this might get me in trouble but here it is from ninja.If you scroll down on the the video coments you will see my name and the questions i asked them on the max output on the Regs. I feel lied to again

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKEhMr6V70w
    Yes, the stock spring will bottom out at about that pressure.

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    • fflamingmoe
      Registered User
      • Feb 2008
      • 174

      #47
      Originally posted by secretweaponevan
      Yes, the stock spring will bottom out at about that pressure.
      Well if that's the stock spring kit then were is the rebuild kit for higher output pressure on their site?
      Last edited by fflamingmoe; 03-19-2009, 12:14 AM.

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      • Sundown
        Livin'
        • Jul 2008
        • 561

        #48
        Originally posted by fflamingmoe
        Ok guys this might get me in trouble but here it is from ninja.If you scroll down on the the video coments you will see my name and the questions i asked them on the max output on the Regs. I feel lied to again

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKEhMr6V70w
        oh nice link. So the Ninja Rep there said 900 max. depending on regs.

        you know, I think I will go with a ANS blackout reg. They can go from 450 to 850 and I think that is enough. I have heard just good comments about ANS regs and it's pretty much the same as a ninja REG. I just don't want to over shim my ninja reg and blow it up :) haha
        And I am not sure I really need more than 850.

        Fflamingmoe: You might want to look into a flatline system for your Mag. Or, just contact NINJA and ask if you can have the reg set to 950 before shipping to you. I am sure if they can boost a reg to 950, they will do it for you before shipping. :)

        Just a suggestion

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        • Ninja Paintball
          Registered User
          • Mar 2009
          • 2

          #49
          Sorry about the delay guys. Styg got Beemer to get my account all set up so thanks to both for your assistance.

          Alright, so now to clarify a few things. First of all, yes we have been in the industry for quite some time now. We have made regs for PMI, DXS, JT, ANS, ACI as well as a few others. Crossfire is one reg though that we did not manufacture. They, however, are made in the USA over in Michigan I believe, so their quality shouldn't have decreased at all.

          Now, as for the maximum output pressure of our regs, there has been some differences between what people have heard. Our official answer to this question is our regs will output a maximum pressure of about 950psi. Now, the reason you may have heard less or more is because each reg has its own individual tolerances. Depending on the spring and piston used in the reg, we may only be able to get 800psi out of it, or we may be able to get a little over 1000 out of it. Generally though, the maximum output will be around 950psi before the reg starts malfunctioning.

          There are problems with running our regs at those higher pressures though. The main problem is called coil bind. That just means at a certain pressure, the spring is going to bind up and not going to function past a certain point. The other problem is the lp burst disk runs a higher chance of blowing. Granted it shouldn't blow until 1620psi, but there are other factors that can change that pressure.

          So I guess, just to make a simple answer here for you, if you order a reg from us, we can pretty much guarantee that it will get up to around 950psi. Anything after that will depend on a few things.

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          • Ruler_Mark
            AKAOG.ORG
            • Aug 2007
            • 2600

            #50
            Originally posted by Ninja Paintball
            Sorry about the delay guys. Styg got Beemer to get my account all set up so thanks to both for your assistance.

            Alright, so now to clarify a few things. First of all, yes we have been in the industry for quite some time now. We have made regs for PMI, DXS, JT, ANS, ACI as well as a few others. Crossfire is one reg though that we did not manufacture. They, however, are made in the USA over in Michigan I believe, so their quality shouldn't have decreased at all.

            Now, as for the maximum output pressure of our regs, there has been some differences between what people have heard. Our official answer to this question is our regs will output a maximum pressure of about 950psi. Now, the reason you may have heard less or more is because each reg has its own individual tolerances. Depending on the spring and piston used in the reg, we may only be able to get 800psi out of it, or we may be able to get a little over 1000 out of it. Generally though, the maximum output will be around 950psi before the reg starts malfunctioning.

            There are problems with running our regs at those higher pressures though. The main problem is called coil bind. That just means at a certain pressure, the spring is going to bind up and not going to function past a certain point. The other problem is the lp burst disk runs a higher chance of blowing. Granted it shouldn't blow until 1620psi, but there are other factors that can change that pressure.

            So I guess, just to make a simple answer here for you, if you order a reg from us, we can pretty much guarantee that it will get up to around 950psi. Anything after that will depend on a few things.

            Go ninja, you guys are cool met a few of you @ waynes world back in december. I heard you are thinking of going to the standard elongated 68 please dont. my friend has a 68 of yous and it is awesome I am trying to sell a tank of mine to fund buying one personally.

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            • Sundown
              Livin'
              • Jul 2008
              • 561

              #51
              Originally posted by Ninja Paintball
              Sorry about the delay guys. Styg got Beemer to get my account all set up so thanks to both for your assistance.

              Alright, so now to clarify a few things. First of all, yes we have been in the industry for quite some time now. We have made regs for PMI, DXS, JT, ANS, ACI as well as a few others. Crossfire is one reg though that we did not manufacture. They, however, are made in the USA over in Michigan I believe, so their quality shouldn't have decreased at all.

              Now, as for the maximum output pressure of our regs, there has been some differences between what people have heard. Our official answer to this question is our regs will output a maximum pressure of about 950psi. Now, the reason you may have heard less or more is because each reg has its own individual tolerances. Depending on the spring and piston used in the reg, we may only be able to get 800psi out of it, or we may be able to get a little over 1000 out of it. Generally though, the maximum output will be around 950psi before the reg starts malfunctioning.

              There are problems with running our regs at those higher pressures though. The main problem is called coil bind. That just means at a certain pressure, the spring is going to bind up and not going to function past a certain point. The other problem is the lp burst disk runs a higher chance of blowing. Granted it shouldn't blow until 1620psi, but there are other factors that can change that pressure.

              So I guess, just to make a simple answer here for you, if you order a reg from us, we can pretty much guarantee that it will get up to around 950psi. Anything after that will depend on a few things.
              Thank you very much for this clarrification.
              So the reg can go up to 950PSI with no problems. After that, the problems ''might'' occur.

              Very good to know. :)

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              • Thotograph
                I dont need 13.3 welts/sec
                • Feb 2007
                • 958

                #52
                I love my Ninja system. Next time I'm at the field I will stack up the shims and see how it runs my mech mag and/or emag. I will also gauge it to see what kind of pressure I can get out of it. I will probably need a few more shims though.

                So far I've pretty much kept my Ninja in the low or medium range output setting. It fits my Angel 1, Mini, and Alien Indy asa which made me very happy b/c none of my other prefered systems lined up where my wrist would be comfy (I can't stand having a fill nipple or gauge digging into my wrist). So yea I have my asa's or whatever matched to my different tanks. Kinda sad haha but thats what I like. My two favorite systems are my Ninja tank and my iReg. Both are stubby 68's (the iReg might be a 70). The ninja has broken in nicely, I saw decent numbers over the chrono out of the box. The gauge will let me know better what its doing. I'll gauge it later tonight in the LP config to see what its outputting there.

                The customer service from Ninja is for sure top notch. They're always happy to answer questions over the phone.

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                • Ninja Paintball
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
                  Go ninja, you guys are cool met a few of you @ waynes world back in december. I heard you are thinking of going to the standard elongated 68 please dont. my friend has a 68 of yous and it is awesome I am trying to sell a tank of mine to fund buying one personally.
                  Don't worry about that happening anytime soon. Our bottle manufacturer has seem to have started picking up the slack, so we shouldn't be needing to change.


                  And yeah, I'm glad you guys are liking your systems. Feel free to call or post here if you have any questions. We are more than happy to help out.

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                  • fflamingmoe
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 174

                    #54
                    I'm still going to buy the set up though i was the one that called and your paypal on your web site didn't work.But that's ok there is always plastic.


                    Chris

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                    • fflamingmoe
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 174

                      #55
                      I just bought mine today and will keep you guy's posted on how it turns out.

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                      • Corvad
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5

                        #56
                        I actually bought one of the ninja regs just for the possibility of upping the pressure to get a nice bounce. Personally I was able to get it up to about 1200 before it malfunctioned and blew the the LP disk. Made the person next to me jump when I filled it. Got it to stabilize and work reliably at about 1050. Guess I got lucky with the random factors for higher output.

                        Got a good amount of bounce out of it too, not quite as much as I would like, but it's a good improvement.

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                        • trippleRipple
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 43

                          #57
                          Originally posted by fflamingmoe
                          Ok guys this might get me in trouble but here it is from ninja.If you scroll down on the the video coments you will see my name and the questions i asked them on the max output on the Regs. I feel lied to again

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKEhMr6V70w

                          Did anyone notice when he said the regs are probably made in the USA?!

                          That is really funny as that is one of their marketing tools. Made in the USA, maybe. LOL

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                          • fflamingmoe
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 174

                            #58
                            I'm imprest with the tank really because it's why shorter then my other 68 ci tank.I'll test out the Regulator tomorrow with a wack of diffrent ASA's.

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                            • secretweaponevan
                              Only HALF Polish!
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1132

                              #59
                              Originally posted by trippleRipple
                              Did anyone notice when he said the regs are probably made in the USA?!

                              That is really funny as that is one of their marketing tools. Made in the USA, maybe. LOL

                              Proudly made in the USA.


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                              • devildog
                                I hate my user name
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 1530

                                #60
                                Ninja paintball:

                                What pressure do you garentee on the low end? Can I hit 450 reliably?
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