I hate punks!!!!!!!!!!!

[stoffa15]

No other teams in the area? No possible way to set up scrimmages?

Its open recreational play... thats what its meant for. Not enforcing this is one of the biggest turn-offs to new players, those who don't want the hassle of a team, and those of us playing simply because its fun. Its not fun when it becomes teams throwing their weight around.

I think you have it wrong in this case.First off two of my guys were playing pump,One A-1,a mech Cocker,and a mech Mag. I team plays all the big games and our focus when playing rec ball is to communicate better with each other,move as a team and critique each of our overall play.

I personally try to get everyone that is playing involved in the game. what do you consider a team????? could it be 5 guys that want to play together on the same side????

Whats turning people off is not teams itself. Its those teams that have the need to hose you down with paint and then laugh about it.

[Watcher]

I've had a lot of jerks in my playing experiences. Most of the time it is just loud talkers who can't back themselves up in game.

I've had the occasional whiper too, usually a well deserved bonus ball takes care of that.

The bonus baller? Make it so they can't see out of their mask lens to shoot people.


However I have never had the ghoster. Not sure what I'd do if I encountered a dead player talking, I'd probably start coaching my team and see how they like it. One guy helps one there, I help all here.


This one time, however, GRimm, our friend Matt, and I were alone at a field because everyone left already. It was one of those FECs. There was a B-day party of about 10-12 kids who probably just came of age to play paintball and were obviously playing for the first time. They had a governing soccer-mom arranging everything. Although they were having plenty of games in the scenario village, it left us 3 to play 2 on 1 airball and it was getting taxing.
So I talked to the mom and somehow convinced her to let us play us 3 vs all of them.

This was before any of us had 'mags or really even knew about them.
I used my Trracer, I lent GRimm my Piranha E-Force (it was having re-cock issues so I figured it'd be a handicap. He also didn't have any pods.) as his A-5 was down, and Matt used his 98.

Before the game, all the kids found hiding spots and us 3 started in the box, and I counted the game off.

Here's what happened, GRimm and I stayed back in some of the buildings, I longballed and he was my cover.
The idea was to get the kids excited and slowly pick them off one by one. Try to get them to move on us, and if that didn't work to slowly fan out. Make this an enjoyable game for everyone.
Suddenly, we see a much larger shape moving among them. I thought to my self, what is he doing, so I grabbed GRimm and pointed Matt out to him.
About 40 seconds later the game was over. I don't think it lasted 2 minutes.
My stats were 2 hits, GRimm 1, Matt 8 and 1 barrel tag and maybe more if Grimm's and my hits were in fact Matt's.

I was so mad at Matt, as a result of the game the mom would not let us play with them again. Half of the kids wanted to play with us, the other half had brown spots on their pants!
I pleaded with the mom to get another game, saying we'll join in with the kids and teach them what we know, split up our team into theirs but she said no.

We ended up leaving early, I bought a case for the day and ended up using like a hopperful and half a pod all day...

So I have to say, one of the biggest paintball jerk I've seen was in fact a good friend of mine


I am probbly the youngest, old-school metality player anyone will meet. I shoot autocockers, automags, pumps, and my Tippmann 98. I teach new kids, I tech guns in the staging area, I don't cheat, I don't bonus ball, I don't swear on field, I compliment shooters, I call out as soon as I confirm the hit, I don't ramp my velocity or ROF, I wear camo in speedball, I offer direction when no-one else is calling strats, I can lend paint, I believe in "barrel-tags"...
I'd say I am a professionall rec-baller.
Don't see that too often outside of my close friends and a few other players I may meet down the road. Sometimes I don't even see it in my close friends
Truely honest players are a rarity, I'd pride myself on being one but you have to accept the fact that noone else is. As much as it shouldn't be, it is part of the game...

[Lohman446]

I think you have it wrong in this case.First off two of my guys were playing pump,One A-1,a mech Cocker,and a mech Mag. I team plays all the big games and our focus when playing rec ball is to communicate better with each other,move as a team and critique each of our overall play.

I personally try to get everyone that is playing involved in the game. what do you consider a team????? could it be 5 guys that want to play together on the same side????

Whats turning people off is not teams itself. Its those teams that have the need to hose you down with paint and then laugh about it.

I may be wrong in this case, I have been before.

I think we have all witnessed the issue. You go play paintball. The first game five players that work as a cohesive unit play together and wipe the field, or two guys for that matter. When suggested they might try to split up they protest.

I recall getting back into the sport last year. This "team" wanted to play together. Ok, so they each had three people. I had not been there in awhile and had basically snuck in, dressed in jeans, using a simple marker (I think it was a Matrix), with two pods. Walking down I might have indicted to them that I had not played before and asked them how this works.



They stuck me in a back corner with the instructions "just try to shoot from there". Its all the help I got, and they decided to run the other tape.

I did point out to them at the end of the game that the back player position is not supposed to pass the front players, nor should I have all the eliminations while they did god knows what.

Unfortunately, this is how new players are "taught" the game.
Step one: Buy the "in" gear. Noone will think you are good if you don't have it. The right marker, the right clothing, this years mask.

Step two: Gain "connections" in the sport. THis works in two ways. "I'm sponsored by..." is one way, the other way is to get with a group who will defend your back even when you are wrong.

Step three: Gain enough skill to light up the new players on recreational day.

Step four: Self promote (brag) a lot.

Step five: Somehow this gets you into the tournament scene. Make up your lack of skill in whatever way is necessary.

Step six: Coontinue steps three and four to ascertain you stay on the team, maybe in time you will actually have the skill to be there.

Step seven: Sandbag, now that you have the skill play against hte lowest level you possible can to win.

[Ruler_Mark]

Watcher, i feel like im in the same boat as you. some differences I have all sorts of guns but try to shoot a mech with rentals or a pump. Also when dead I do talk to the alive 1st timer players, not calling out the enemy but telling them how to get tighter or trying to give them courage to not hide90% of the time.

[snoopay700]

Lohman this hasn't happened often in the past but i agree with you wholeheartedly, there are a lot of new people that just didn't know how to play and if they were willing to listen i would lend a hand or i'd talk strategy beforehand so that they had an idea if i had another little group to lead and they wanted to go elsewhere, but i've seen plenty just completely ignore new players when they have needed help and it turns a lot of people off from the sport.

[stoffa15]

Lohman this hasn't happened often in the past but i agree with you wholeheartedly, there are a lot of new people that just didn't know how to play and if they were willing to listen i would lend a hand or i'd talk strategy beforehand so that they had an idea if i had another little group to lead and they wanted to go elsewhere, but i've seen plenty just completely ignore new players when they have needed help and it turns a lot of people off from the sport.

I know everyone hears this alot from the new players and I just wanted to know your responses to the question. I heard it alot when I played on Sunday so here it is."I'm never played paintball before, whats the key'?????

My answer is always, The key to paintball is first communication and next controlling the middle of the field and most importantly having fun

[StygShore]

I always tell the new players the key is work together and keep moving - otherwise the new players find the closest bunker to the starting position and pile into it and sit


Styg

[snoopay700]

I know everyone hears this alot from the new players and I just wanted to know your responses to the question. I heard it alot when I played on Sunday so here it is."I'm never played paintball before, whats the key'?????

My answer is always, The key to paintball is first communication and next controlling the middle of the field and most importantly having fun

I generally tell them the same thing you did as well as just not being afraid of getting hit and to just take chances because it'll only leave a welt at most and you can play again next game.

[SCpoloRicker]

Recball. Serious Business.