Pmump Mag vs. Pump Cocker?

[Spider-TW]

It is if you plan on only playing stock class for a while haha. If i go to a scenario that's how i intend to play.

For sure, in scenarios playing style is most important.

I was just saying that pump mags have some benefit there. I only play pump on group "pump days" rec ball, and that's with my superbolt body w/flatline and AGD grip frame. I hate rollouts but the stroke is like the piranha lb I used to have and liked (for a pump). I'm learning to prevent and live with the rollouts.

My son started pump play with an SL-68, which is a nelson system. We smoothed it up a lot, but he likes the pump mag for the consistent velocity and much lighter stroke, especially in big battles.

[Sumthinwicked]

get a pahntom designed to be a pump LOL had a few pmags they are great but eh not my tthing and cockers well the only one id use is a pump LOL so stick with pgps or phantoms, carters and the such

[halB]

Automag "pumps" are not pumps.

They are guns that carry out every function of a semi-auto gun - except it is prevented from completing the last 1/10th of an inch of the cycle, which you must complete. So you are not "pumping" the gun to reset the bolt, load the ball, and prime the hammer, you are making a broken gun work.

So all that gas, all that CO2, it's still wasted cycling all parts of a semi-auto gun. You don't get the weight, efficiency, or any of the savings you would get from a real pump.

Buy a superbolt and pump it. 80 bux, tops.

[GroovYChickeN 2.o]

I have both a pump mag and cocker. I love them both.

The mag is just great. I have enjoyed playing with it every chance I get. If you know how to tune a gun then you can run a pump mag, they are not that hard to set up, you just need to take the time to work on it.

The cocker is solid and reliable just as much as the mag is. The only big difference between my guns is the weight. My mag is a lot heavier than the cocker, mainly because of the SS mini-mag body with added 12rd SS feed tube and the SS classic valve. Opposed to the cocker that is all aluminum.

Yes the pump stroke is different on both guns but honestly who cares. When your playing you don't really notice the different, and if you do your paying too much attention to your gun and not enough on the game.

Seeing as how your looking to a cheaper solution I would go for a phantom or a cocker myself. The idea of a pump mag is great and they are really really fun to have. However, the costs will be a factor. I've easily spent around $700 or so on mine. After you get to liking pump play and if you really want to then go for the pump mag then do it. For now though, just find something to play with.

[flyingpootang]

I own 2 pumpmages, a pgp, a duckslide/phantom and a super bolt. I've never had a problem with my pumpmag and setting it up is very simple. For me the pumpmag is superior for it's butta smooooth pump and trigger pull (ULT). I shot sandfreestyles S6 and must admit for a cocker the trigger was excellent. For me it comes down to relaibility and ease of maintaince. If your valve leaks on a phantom, sheridan or cocker on the field it's going to take some time to fix. If your mags leaks it's a simple o-ring/s. Jay8541 and rainmann229 have kits + milling for 200. add a 80-90 mag and you have something unique........
I know most of you are tired of seeing this thing, but here's mine

[GroovYChickeN 2.o]

I own 2 pumpmages, a pgp, a duckslide/phantom and a super bolt. I've never had a problem with my pumpmag and setting it up is very simple. For me the pumpmag is superior for it's butta smooooth pump and trigger pull (ULT). I shot sandfreestyles S6 and must admit for a cocker the trigger was excellent. For me it comes down to relaibility and ease of maintaince. If your valve leaks on a phantom, sheridan or cocker on the field it's going to take some time to fix. If your mags leaks it's a simple o-ring/s. Jay8541 and rainmann229 have kits + milling for 200. add a 80-90 mag and you have something unique........
I know most of you are tired of seeing this thing, but here's mine

No way man, that pumpmag is sweet. I just wish mine looked that good.

[Chrishew09]

i have two old school cocker pumps, inexpensive, reliable, aftermarket parts galore, oh did i mention cheap to make.
my friend has a pumpmag it is smooth, but it took a lot of tinkering to get it that way.

bottom line it's all personal preference.

[TeamBob]

thanks

thanks for all the info fella. Its much appreciated.

[going_home]

Everytime someone has a budget of under $200 you tell them to buy a $400 s6.

Not that helpful...

On the contrary, dont waste your money, get a good one to start with.
If you look around you can get a good price on one.
And get a cocker.

[lvl]

"Pump" mags are anything but, as the other dude said. All you are doing is completing a fraction of an inch of the reset cycle.

We need to see someone take an electro, build a pump handle for it, slap in a microswitch, rewire the electronics so that the pump stroke (1/16" of an inch small enough?) arms the trigger. Then take their "pump" electro to the field and claim they pwned everyone fair and square.

I wonder how people would react...

Moral of the story. If it was designed to be a semi, leave it semi!

[GroovYChickeN 2.o]

If it was designed to be a semi, leave it semi!

Yeah but where is the fun in that?

[PumpMag]

This is why the Automag is still around after so many years. You can make it whatever you want. Semi, electro, pneumatic, or pump.

What other marker has that kind of flexibility?

If you want a pumpmag just do it!

[snoopay700]

This is why the Automag is still around after so many years. You can make it whatever you want. Semi, electro, pneumatic, or pump.

What other marker has that kind of flexibility?

If you want a pumpmag just do it!

You forgot electro-pneumatic, and you can't make it bolt action.

Hell you can even make a pistol out of it. No need for the stupid squall, it's cool and all but gets the same efficiency about and costs a hell of a lot more.

[Spider-TW]

"Pump" mags are anything but, as the other dude said. All you are doing is completing a fraction of an inch of the reset cycle.

That is what you're doing to the bolt; however, the pump stroke is still a full bolt stroke length and there is no autotrigger. This allows you to play with other pump players on the same level of firepower and skill, which is the main point for playing pump in the first place.

If you play a lot of stock class, there's not much benefit in owning a pump mag. But if you usually play with a mag, a pump mag is usually easy to pick up and roll with it.

[Puzuma]

Does anyone know if a lvl X works well as a pump?