Fake Myth regs are Still around

[cockerpunk]

privy to being the key phrase ...

i am also privy to sources which i cannot quote with alot of insight into the air tank industry ...

i dont have any problem talking to people, never have, never will. doesn't mean it will change anything, and often it gives me more reason or better explanations of my original thoughts. i'd love to meet him, see what he says.

but steve, you should know, im not an arbitrary kinda person. if i claim something, i usually have a reason to be claiming it.

[Beemer]

privy to being the key phrase ...

i am also privy to sources which i cannot quote with alot of insight into the air tank industry ...

i dont have any problem talking to people, never have, never will. doesn't mean it will change anything, and often it gives me more reason or better explanations of my original thoughts. i'd love to meet him, see what he says.

but steve, you should know, im not an arbitrary kinda person. if i claim something, i usually have a reason to be claiming it.

I can quote them. So you havent even met or even talked to him then? Is that correct?

But yet you can say that is what happened cause you are privy to sources which you wont quote. If you are going to claim something it would behoove you to have some facts to back it up. I know Dan personally. I will get in touch with him and then come back with my sources that I am privy to and post some facts. One thing you will learn, there is always more to the story then you know or were told.

[cockerpunk]

I can quote them. So you havent even met or even talked to him then? Is that correct?

But yet you can say that is what happened cause you are privy to sources which you wont quote. If you are going to claim something it would behoove you to have some facts to back it up. I know Dan personally. I will get in touch with him and then come back with my sources that I am privy to and post some facts. One thing you will learn, there is always more to the story then you know or were told.

that goes both ways beemer .... that exact point goes both ways.

[Beemer]

that goes both ways beemer .... that exact point goes both ways.

Sure it does but I am not the one in here saying thats what happened am I?

[Lohman446]

Asking a company to produce a prototype does not give them the right to snag the design for themselves and / or produce a product to compete against you using your intelectual property. I just don't see how the original manufacturer is responsible for someone else producing an inferior copy of their design.

[Chronobreak]

Do you have proof of this or is it "I was told by someone reputable"??????

Just curious.

there is a machine show in town that was one of many asked to make the regs, give a quote and send them in for testing.

i assume this is the case as cockerpunk said.


Im not a fan of myth regs because...

they seem to vary greatly on output pressures and consistency.

the regs seem to "bind up" and dont want to let any air out of tank.

and they tend to come undone from the tank much easier than most other regs in my experience.

Tell danny you say? personaly i tried ...i have sent a few dozen tanks back for repairs a few times now only to keep having the same problems over and over. Danny never seemed to be around or was unavailable when i called and never returned one of the 8+ calls and messages i left with the "secretary"

I am persoanly dissatisfied, I cannot reccomend these regs to anyone, and if the real ones are as troublesome as i ahve seen, i can only imagine how bad the knockoffs are.

[Dawg047]

I have never had a major problem with a GA reg. I got the The 68/4500 Myth reg with GA tank and it is superb. I did have one instance where the output spiked but GA fixed it no problems. It is a very nice tank. It is very small and light and looks great. It puts out a very consistent 850psi.

I do not believe that the knockoffs are of any fault due to GA. There regs are patened and if some other company is selling an unpatened reg that "looks" like a Myth, then how is that GA's fault? People sell knockoffs all the time.
Just because you buy a knockoff Rolex watch and it quits a week in, does that mean that is Rolex's fault? It is the world we live in folks. People sell knockoffs all the time because guess what, people buy them! Why, people are poor, people want a cheaper way, people don't do research. Some times it is ok and knockoffs are good, sometimes it is bad. It is the consumers fault really unless a company is branding the same name on an item.

Hey, I am a new company. I want to make money. Hey, DYE makes money off of barrels. Hey, I will make a barrel out of cheap aluminum that looks just like a DYE barrel. Hey, people don't pay attention so they buy my product and I get rich. Yay!!!! Now, who's fault is that? Not my "NEW" company or DYE's. It is the consumer. My "NEW" company didn't do anything wrong. We just marketed really well. We just played the marketing game. See, that is how that works.
And if there are reasons this is GA's fault, can we get some creditable sources so we can look at both sides of the story here? Some people are so quick to point fingers when they do not know the full story.

Now, the whole fake myth regs that were branded as Myths is completely wrong if not illegal. But folks, we can't buy from uncreditable sources and we defiantely can't buy an unbranded reg just becaue it "Looks" like a Myth. Thanks.

[Lohman446]

there is a machine show in town that was one of many asked to make the regs, give a quote and send them in for testing.

i assume this is the case as cockerpunk said.

So how does this make the company responsible if one of those companies they had quote and build a reg for testing make an inferior knock-off?

[druid]

So how does this make the company responsible if one of those companies they had quote and build a reg for testing make an inferior knock-off?

I agree.

Everyone else, think of it like this....

IF GA had a company prototype/produce a reg with cheaper labor costs than can be made in the US...and they do, GA still holds the patent for that reg and sells it under that name.

But the company contracted to produce it still has all the machinery and tooling CADs for the overall design.

GA says "we want 4 million units" and the company makes those 4 million and ships them out. Now they have access to all kinds of material to make their own and with newly received monies from the original production run to play with.

They set out to copy the reg but go cheap on the internals and in fact, CHANGE the design of the internals [possibly to offset some "legal" issue (and in fact, creating others)] and sell them on their own for additional income.

It's no different than a drug dealer buying a Kilo of Coke, saving one half for himself and cutting the rest of it into another 1.5 Keys for redistribuition.

Right or wrong and regardless of how you feel about the export of "jobs" and labor.......the company that's making these fakes is DEAD WRONG and even MORE SO because they AREN'T keeping in line with safety the devices in the original design.

And I have 2 GA regs and have to say that I've NEVER had an issue with EITHER of them. The Myth is a 'medium pressure' reg intended for those markers that operate under 550 psi but require a faster [than the usual LP] recharge. You can get different spring packs to make it HP if you like.