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  • malJohann
    Registered User
    • Jan 2007
    • 187

    #16
    I run with a remote-line on my Tac-One setup as a pistol. The tank is in an OPSGEAR MOLLE pouch riding high horizontally across my back on a MOLLE vest. I route the remote across my right shoulder directly to the valve and hold it secure with a cable tie, so there's almost no tension in the coil.

    With it setup like this I have no problems sprinting, sliding or lying down on my back in the field (a slide onto my back has saved me countless times during scenarios, because it gives me immediate cover where it would usually be insufficient or at least reduces my target profile and allows me to keep shooting).

    Also, switching hands is a breeze because the line does not need to wrap around my body first, matter of fact I can extend my left hand easily to its max straight to the side while holding the marker without it affecting accuracy. I don't see myself ever running with my Tac-One any other way.

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    • Shingo
      The Solar Powered Cat
      • Oct 2001
      • 335

      #17
      malJohann... Very very nice setup

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      • WUNDERWAFFEN
        Registered User
        • Nov 2007
        • 260

        #18
        Honestly, once you replace the tank with any kind of stock I do not see why anyone would want to go back to having the tank on gun. I feel that the tank actually hinders the user with its bulk and placement under the gun. What do you guys slide while holding your gun up in the air? I have been running remote for years. First with CO2 a long SS line and a Cooper-T manifold/chamber and now I run a high pressure and a slinky hose. Just the ability to instantly de-gas and work on the gun without any chance of pressure is a huge plus, this would also be great for you guys running with out safteys on your guns.

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        • skyless
          Registered User
          • Mar 2006
          • 576

          #19
          What is the coil remote line tubing? I have an old coiled line and it looks alot like braided with a rubber coating. Are new ones much lighter? I was thinking of just using steel braided and having it come over the shoulders so the weight of the hose was held by my body. It would be long enough so i can fully extend my arm. Im worried that the back of the marker will feel too stiff and prevent good movement. With the one I have now it I would need 2 pieces to run the desired lenth for one marker (Ive been called lanky once or twice).
          Thanks for the input

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          • malJohann
            Registered User
            • Jan 2007
            • 187

            #20
            Originally posted by Shingo
            malJohann... Very very nice setup
            Thanks Shingo, coming from someone that's been on this forum for almost eight years, that just carries so much more weight.

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            • Shingo
              The Solar Powered Cat
              • Oct 2001
              • 335

              #21
              Skyless... I used to use something like this: Remote Coil
              It's much more flexible then the thicker remote coils and and is very comfortable to use. during play you virtually dont notice your running a coil to your marker. The key is to find a harness that is very comfortable on your back (or side) and is very secure. Are you leaning towards running remote?

              malJohann... I call it as I see it. your setup makes me think about running remote again.

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              • georgeyew
                Registered User
                • Jan 2007
                • 704

                #22
                Originally posted by Shingo
                The key is to find a harness that is very comfortable on your back (or side) and is very secure.
                Let me share with you my secret.....I use a camelback (for biking) to hold my tank. The camelback (or any hydration pack) is low profile and fits snug and has a chest strap to keep the tank from flapping around. And my 68/45 tank fits very comfy in the opening. Most packs have a zipper opening, so the tank will not slip out.

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                • Shingo
                  The Solar Powered Cat
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 335

                  #23
                  Originally posted by georgeyew
                  Let me share with you my secret.....I use a camelback (for biking) to hold my tank. The camelback (or any hydration pack) is low profile and fits snug and has a chest strap to keep the tank from flapping around. And my 68/45 tank fits very comfy in the opening. Most packs have a zipper opening, so the tank will not slip out.
                  THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!

                  I might need to give this a try. What brand/model are you using? Or do you have suggestions on a brand/model camelback?? Maybe we can all find something on ebay or craigslist.

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                  • georgeyew
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 704

                    #24
                    Mine was an old pack that I picked up at Walmart for $10. Almost any hydration pack with normal size bladders will hold a HPA tank.

                    I think this is it:

                    Last edited by georgeyew; 04-17-2009, 12:23 PM.

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                    • chopper duke
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 278

                      #25
                      I used on long ago. I found, for me, they were best in long, scenario type games. Otherwise, they just got in the way.

                      I used a gas through stock with it as well. That kept the "shouldering" of the marker similar.

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                      • Warwitch
                        Resident Skeptic

                        • May 2006
                        • 3176

                        #26
                        Originally posted by georgeyew
                        Let me share with you my secret.....I use a camelback (for biking) to hold my tank. The camelback (or any hydration pack) is low profile and fits snug and has a chest strap to keep the tank from flapping around. And my 68/45 tank fits very comfy in the opening. Most packs have a zipper opening, so the tank will not slip out.

                        QFT. Hydration packs work better than most bottle pouches.

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                        • ajnin
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 508

                          #27
                          I agree about the hydro pack, I run with a tac vest that has on built in. Works great.

                          And one of the main reasons I like running with a remote is that i can pull my marker pretty much to my chest. I use a 8 inch barrel on most my guns so everythign is really tight. I never have an issue getting around obstacles. with everything being so snug I dont have to worry about switching hands i just lean and adjust to shoot left with my right.

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                          • Oregon_pb_
                            Senior PBaller. 15+yrs
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 527

                            #28
                            remotes are great for CO2 guns, used them all the time back in the day. Everyone did it seemed. Once HP came about it removed the need to offload a >1lb of weight onto your back.



                            Depending upon your air needs and bottle size it could make sense of course. I still keep 1 of my oooooold remote lines just in case I do want to run one again. The coil remotes are stupid simple to run compared to the original 3-4 ft braided.
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                            • Watcher
                              aka CavDragoneb12
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 867

                              #29
                              IMHO, remotes go hand in hand with rifle buttstocks.

                              Having a stock on a marker and a tank just makes it awkward, bulky, and back heavy.

                              When you add a buttstock, whether for looks or for comfort, or both, the tank should move to your back and get lined to the marker.


                              I currently run 2 markers remote. One is my milsim Tippmann98 with an air-thru stock, and the other is my Trracer.
                              The only reason my Trracer is remote is because it has a backbottle valve. The only practicle tank to use on it and still be able to sight down the marker is a 9oz. Not liking that, I put a T-stock in it's place and remote to the T-stock.

                              My Autococker and my 2 mags are direct air.


                              Playing remote without a stock does make the marker very light, but you compromize shoulder support and the result is no accuracy...

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                              • MKing
                                Registered User
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 32

                                #30
                                I run remote with a qloader and no stock, real close to malJohann's setup.

                                It keeps things light and tight. I notice that if I get suprised on my left or right it is easier to take a qiuck shot than with a tank.

                                My least favorite aspect is the lack of ability to put my gun on a table and leave it without having to disconect the air. Its dumb but it can be a pain to be tied to the gun.

                                Also it makes it real tough for someone to try your gun since you have to take off your whole harness, this may be good or bad depending.

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