Regulator

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[stonersr26]

The valve itself is a regulator. PLacing another regulator before the valve causes starvation of the reg, adds weight, and has absolutely no purpose or advantage. Hope that helps.

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how come they are benificial on other markers?

[BiNumber3]

most other markers don't come with a built in regulator

[kcombs9]

how come they are benificial on other markers?

Because they ant a mag

[xero28]

how come they are benificial on other markers?

Take an autococker for example (mainly since that's really the only other gun I'm familier with).

When you pull the trigger, the hammer hits the valve which is held closed by a spring, and releases a shot of air that shoots the paintball. If you did not regulate the pressure, this shot of air would be inconsistent and the velocity could be vastly different on each shot.

I really don't know how important regulators are today though since so many people run HP systems which also utilize a regulator. When we were all shooting CO2 that is VERY inconsistent, they were important. Nowadays I don't think you see too many regulators on newer guns because most of them will not be running CO2. Just my thoughts.

As stated before, the Mag valve is a regulator in and of itself which keeps a consistent pressure going through the gun, it would be redundant to use another regulator. Remember, the original valve was called the A.I.R. Valve...Advanced INTEGRATED Regulator.

[GoatBoy]

I really don't know how important regulators are today though since so many people run HP systems which also utilize a regulator. When we were all shooting CO2 that is VERY inconsistent, they were important. Nowadays I don't think you see too many regulators on newer guns because most of them will not be running CO2. Just my thoughts.

Nothing offers perfect regulation; what regs do is give a ratio of stability, like say for every 90psi input change, the output will only change 1psi or so. That's just an example.

Expecting that a single tank regulator will be able to keep your gun shooting consistently over the entire range of your tank, from say 150PSI all the way up to 4500PSI might be asking a bit much.

I don't know what the typical ratios of tank regulators are, but as an example, Ninja regs supposedly have a "response curve 0 to 50psi from full to empty".

While 50 psi is pretty good considering you're going from full to empty, that much change in the input pressure to a gun will still result in a significant change in velocity. In fact, it can probably blow some of the components of the newer guns if it goes the wrong way.

Thus you add a second regulator in addition to the one on the HPA tank, which would turn that 50 psi shift into a 1 psi shift or less.

[kcombs9]

Nothing offers perfect regulation; what regs do is give a ratio of stability, like say for every 90psi input change, the output will only change 1psi or so. That's just an example.

Expecting that a single tank regulator will be able to keep your gun shooting consistently over the entire range of your tank, from say 150PSI all the way up to 4500PSI might be asking a bit much.

I don't know what the typical ratios of tank regulators are, but as an example, Ninja regs supposedly have a "response curve 0 to 50psi from full to empty".

While 50 psi is pretty good considering you're going from full to empty, that much change in the input pressure to a gun will still result in a significant change in velocity. In fact, it can probably blow some of the components of the newer guns if it goes the wrong way.

Thus you add a second regulator in addition to the one on the HPA tank, which would turn that 50 psi shift into a 1 psi shift or less.

Ions are an example of a gun getting too much input psi, If they have more then 600? the gun wont fire.

A friend of mine has had problems with this cause his tank keeps putting out too much psi and he has to adjust his regulator just to get his gun to fire.