Poll: Milsim Marker Appeal

[derfalpha]

Suppose tomorrow there's a new scenario / woods marker with the following features:

- 30 round mag-fed
- .68 cal
- Looks exactly like an M4 (including magazine)
- Performance virtually identical to Tippmann / BT4
- Mid / High end priced
- Low priced magazines

Now, the appeal is obviously for more conservative players who don't feel the need to empty cases of paint to score an elimination. Keep in mind the only competition to this would be:

- 17 round Milsig
- 18 round RAP4 T68
- 25 round ATS (with questionable looks, reliability and huge price)

Would you buy it?

[SSP REAPER]

nope, wouldn't give up my mag for one of these. if it has tippmann like reliability then there will be a lucrative parts market. I wish them well with their venture.

[vf-xx]

Personally, just not into the MilSim thing. Don't mind the style of play, but I'm really not a fan of making markers look exactly like real weapons. Too many bad images for the game.

[chafnerjr]

automag all the way... you said it would have the performance of a tippmann..

[Newt]

Dispensing with the fact I have little love left for Tippmann style markers...

No, I wouldn't buy it. I slightly prefer milsim as long as there is no preformance compromise. About the closest I'll come is a TM7.

[vf-xx]

I will go back and say, if you can do a good clip, I'll be very interested in seeing how.

[robo1]

milsim

Nah, got an a5 and its ok. Love my mag though.

[Lohman446]

Its better if the markers in my bag not look at all like real firearms

I get easily confused :P

[Jaan]

I personally hate fake stuff.

Form should follow function. Automags look cool because that's what they look like.

I had the opportunity to get an X7 cheap and I passed it up because I hated the fake magazine.

[Frizzle Fry]

I would. I've (in the past) loved playing with the Gen3, Gen4 and Gen5 Rap4 T68 but felt that the low capacity and performance issues were too important to allow me to keep them. So yes, if it looked good, was all metal, had internal air and a 30rd+ capacity magazine and was <$400 I would certainly buy one.

[Toll]

It all comes down to price. If high end price you mean 4-500, maybe. If you mean in the 1k region, never.

[dark blade]

nope, couldnt do it. Im all for being tactical and woodsball milsim style... but i could never give up my mag or pump cockers.


or the phantom i have....... but thats a random marker.

[MechMags]

for me and most of my team it would be no go. too many m4 clones out there already and there has been little to out perform our mags from an overall standpoint (downtime, consistency, simplicity of breakdown etc. etc.).

Now something with a little more vavavoom would make it a consideration for some. Largely though.. most of the people i know while they play milsim scenarios they are what would be termed milsim peoples.

The one truer milsim player on my team would prolly go for it, as his Rap4 T68 has been nothing but problematic from the first day on the field. So thats 1 out 10+ would be willing to take such a plunge.

My greater question would be where do you see a mid to high end price?

[MANN]

not to bust on milsim guys, but IMO its worthless. all it does is look different. There is no advantage. If anything it would be a disadvantage.

of course I wear an orange jersey when playing woodsball, and shoot a viking or rtpro. I dont want them to have an excuse when I shoot them. I dont blend in. my marker is outdated, and I am no where near as sneaky as a ninja.

It is fun tho at the beginning of the day when everyone laughs at what I am wearing only to realize that I am the one that eliminated them.

[Toll]

The issue for alot of people will be

a) It is still a 98/A5/etc when it comes to it. This is the issue I have currently with alot of "milsim" styled markers.

b) It doesn't bring anything necissary to the table. Lets say it was chambered in First Strike rounds (and I had the the money to drop 30 rounds on some one) in a drum style magazine I could see it being very popular.


In this case an identical marker without the magazine system would infact be preferable, seeing as I have a 200 shot hopper that we've all pretty well learned to keep safe by now vs a 30 round mag. As far as the M4/etc go, I don't really know how else you could change it around. G36/g3/FAL would be neat, Bullpup style would be neat as well though does not lend its self well to the drum theory above