Gruntbull messed up my anno AND won't fix it

[minimag03]

That looks like a bad picture of a blue acid wash. You cocker might be a little darker than your example pic, but the ego looks like it has more purple than a standard "blue acidwash".

And you cannot expect him to place your order in front of his work line. That would be unfair to the other people whom have waited just as long as you did in the first place.

Sounds like a simple miscommunication. Good luck with getting it redone.

[punkncat]

It is hard to tell from the pics, but there does seem to be some bit of acid wash in your body.

Although it may not be done the way you envisioned it, it still looks pretty damn good to me overall. All the parts are at the least matching!

Personally, given all the grief, I would put it together, shoot the hell out of it, and IF I still had it in a year or two (which I know I wouldn't cause I am a whore) when it was scratched up a bit, I might consider looking for someone else to do the work.

Apparently good PB anno providers are falling by the wayside and fast.

[tbaggin]

reading this thread prevented me from using them to anno my Xmag.

[Lohman446]

To play devils advocate your indignation is likely related to the thread title. You have the impression they will not fix it - in reality they will. Its simply they will not do it to your time table or with them paying shipping. While I agree an argument could be made (and should be made) that you should be given priority in placement I think that you might be being slightly petty insisting they pay the shipping. It is after all a very minimal expense.

[georgeyew]

I think that you might be being slightly petty insisting they pay the shipping. It is after all a very minimal expense.

Then GB should be able to afford it.

Don't anno places take pictures anymore, just to make sure that the jobs turn out as expected?? Come on, how hard is that to do?

[Ando]

Then GB should be able to afford it.

Don't anno places take pictures anymore, just to make sure that the jobs turn out as expected?? Come on, how hard is that to do?

/agree

[i8pie2day]

ok again like said 3 posts above im gonna kinda be the devils advocate....

1: CUSTOM WILL NEVER FIT YOUR TIMETABLE!!!!

2: he actually DID do what you asked him... he gave you a blue acid wash that is "similar" to the picture.... your word was SIMILAR not EXACT or AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE

3: it looks pretty damn nice...

4: i think you need better pictures to make it clearer... because 1 the first pic looks all black where as the second one has blue... dont people take good pics these days? (reference to 2 posts above )

[Stayhuge]

One side looks like it is all black (the pic of just the body) and the other side looks like it is more of a black, with a little blue in it. Personally, I think that the anno looks pretty good, but will agree that it is not exactly like the ego pics. I would just try to get some of your money back, play with it the way it is, and if you really don't like it, get it redone by a place like 125. I found a local place in NY that does anno. I am going there to discuss my options and what they can do. The guy on the phone seemed pretty good and said that they can do a PB gun. He also said that it would only take a few days. I guess things have been pretty slow for them. Might be another option for you depending on what is near you. Also, when you can get in your car and drive to them, there is little chance of miscommunication. Hope everything works out for you. Personally, I gave up on Gruntbull after the Bunny5 incident (Sorry Bunny )

[Lohman446]

However, most custom things, especially paint (or anno) related are going to be different in your minds eye and someone elses. Even given pictures it would be nearly impossible to match dead on. There is no way to know what formula someone followed to get a certain color anno, or a certain effect. Being given a picture and told "match this" is a near impossible undertaking (at least at the prices we pay).

I mean, there is an awesome phantom anno job over on PBN but the owner wants too much (IMO) for the marker. I doubt I could get the anno duplicated exactly though.

Anno is a blending of science and art, and matching is not always possible.

[Ruler_Mark]

However, most custom things, especially paint (or anno) related are going to be different in your minds eye and someone elses. Even given pictures it would be nearly impossible to match dead on. There is no way to know what formula someone followed to get a certain color anno, or a certain effect. Being given a picture and told "match this" is a near impossible undertaking (at least at the prices we pay).

I mean, there is an awesome phantom anno job over on PBN but the owner wants too much (IMO) for the marker. I doubt I could get the anno duplicated exactly though.

Anno is a blending of science and art, and matching is not always possible.

Gruntbull did the gun in the example pic.

[Lohman446]

Gruntbull did the gun in the example pic.

Lets say that I don't think that the first picture is a remarkably good job. Nor do I think its as bad as the OP would have us beleive.

I do think that a lot of people expect far more from an anno job than they are likely to get. I don't think they really understand how imprecise of a project it can be, especially on the scale its done at for PB.

[Watcher]

Well, what I get from the pics is not so much of an acid-wash as it is just blue "streaky".

And the first pic, whether by light or by angle or by actual look, appears all black.
The anno probably isn't even side-to-side.

[Ruler_Mark]

Im sorry that you really feel that way watcher but you must get your eyes checked.



Lohman446, some things arent as hard as they make you think it is.

[Watcher]

Im sorry that you really feel that way watcher but you must get your eyes checked.

Already have, 20/20

[vf-xx]

Well, what I get from the pics is not so much of an acid-wash as it is just blue "streaky".

And the first pic, whether by light or by angle or by actual look, appears all black.
The anno probably isn't even side-to-side.

Gotta agree with you there. Can see blue highlights in the 2nd pict, but the first picture looks black.

That said, there are somethings that are really hard to photograph well.

And before any repetion happens here, I had lasik this year. I know full well my eyes are 100%.