Change your Macroline

[Thordic]

All you yahoos trying to dump 1k+ PSI into your mech's to get them to bounce (then whine about rampers) shouldnt be surprised when a line blows, or some seal dies...

/Has blown macroline at least 3 times
//It hurts like hell and leaves a nasty bruise
///Doesn't play, but would still use mag with 1k input and macroline

[Toll]

One of the cheaper spyder clones this weekend blew at the field, the SS line snapped off the barb it was placed on and scared the **** out of everyone. Looked pretty nasty afterwards but it must not have caught his hand.

[Newt]

Pfft...Seals are a dime a dozen

Wait, seals as in baby seals? That's a different story.

:evil:

[BigEvil]

Ive seen more people hurt with both improperly connected remote lines and fill whips than blown macroline.

Most guns only have 3"-4" of macro and do not need to run 1200 psi into them. Where the mags need this big loop of line (the most popular set up) and users seem to like to push 1k+ into them.

Ive been playing since 1991 and have only seen one incident with macro line. Not saying that it's better than ss brainded hose, but I dont think it's a big problem.


**Now im almost certain to have one of my lines blow off this weekend for sure.

[Smoothice]

the last AO game we played whee mcgee's marcro line blew 2 or 3 times.

Besides being annoying it did no damage. Maybe he was just lucky.

I'm thinking his tank reg was on the fritz as it happened with different markers.

[Spider-TW]

You definitely have to check the specs on any hose you use, that includes the torque specs for stainless tubing fittings. When they bite too hard they weaken the tubing. You can even find some silly thin stainless tubing if you try. Some of the fittings they sell are no where near a safe rating. I found an old remote with a Foster brass QD 150 psi fitting that was cracked on the npt side.

That Black Nylon from airsoldier is tough stuff and I trust it for 800 psi and below. It doesn't even seal well without 600 psi and moderate temperatures. It is tough to bend too. Of course I take care of it.

Someone gave me some of that 625 psi parker hose. I use it on a flatline reg at 600 psi because it seals and it's not pointed at me. It is relatively soft.

I use braided line on my RT mag not just because of the 1000 psi, but because it runs beside the inside of my wrist and the valve fitting points back at me. I prefer to check my pressure ratings and not be in the way.

[Lohman446]

Since the safe alternative to macroline is steel let me ask this

On a steel line that size what is the burst rating? Or of the line you are using? I can buy rated macroline (most people don't). Is the steel line rated? What happens in the result of a failure of steel line? 4500PSI is A LOT of pressure - if we are considering the results of a full dump reg failure without burst disk failure.

[Old School 626]

the last AO game we played whee mcgee's marcro line blew 2 or 3 times.

Besides being annoying it did no damage. Maybe he was just lucky.

I'm thinking his tank reg was on the fritz as it happened with different markers.

And he was using different macro lines that he got from a few different people after each blew. If the functional pressure range is that tight, I'll stick with SS.

[Ando]

Wait, seals as in baby seals? That's a different story.

:evil:

/hate you

Since the safe alternative to macroline is steel let me ask this

On a steel line that size what is the burst rating? Or of the line you are using? I can buy rated macroline (most people don't). Is the steel line rated? What happens in the result of a failure of steel line? 4500PSI is A LOT of pressure - if we are considering the results of a full dump reg failure without burst disk failure.

Bro...braided line is rated at 3k work 12k burst. I really don't see one going unless it's been tampered with or not assembled to spec. Burst disks not blowing? I've seen it happen twice but the reg didn't chamber dump all 3k into the gun.

[Newt]

And he was using different macro lines that he got from a few different people after each blew. If the functional pressure range is that tight, I'll stick with SS.

I'd say that points to a psychotic tank reg. That or the guy's using a mag in the first place because plastic melts within a 3 yrd radius of his person.

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[going_home]

Fixed...

Why would I want a plastic line down stream of 4500psi?

Saying macroline is unsafe is just ignorant. Period.
If you prefer the ugly anodizing scratching steel braided have at it.
Macroline is here to stay so get over it.

[skife]

Hey, if your reg gives out and you have 4500 psi going through your line, macroline is probably better. I'd rather have macroline blow violently than SS, at least I won't have braid shards in my neck. Or valve pieces.

btw, you won't get mag valve peices in your face, there is a video out there somewhere with a 3000psi runaway rt mag dry firing.

[Newt]

Thanks for the info. If you'd read the whole topic, you might notice I said that very thing a few posts down.

[FiXeL]

I really don't see what's the big problem here... I see both pro and anti macro users having a (imho) pointless discussion. Yes, macroline can blow, and Yes it can be said that thus it's unsafe. But you have macroline, and macroline. Some is rated for the required pressure range (with a huge overhead i might add) and some isnt. I've seen examples of both on guns and it's usually the thin walled macroline that is causing problems like this, or faulty fittings.

The connections are not always rated for pressures like this, heck, even the fill nipple we use on all high pressure tanks are definatly not rated for 4500 psi.

Is that a problem? No. Because they can hold up to that pressure, but are not rated for it. Same goes with macroline and couplings. If you want no risk at all, go SS hose (which infact is steel braided macroline) or just go with quality macro and fittings.

Personally in not a fan of macro because the thick stuff not always seals well, but i'll use it if it looks good. Classic mags get the SS.

/end rant.

[crazyjoe12]

its funny i read this post then the next day my macroline blew hah go figure right?