is AO becoming like the nation?

[punkncat]

This forum has not been the same in a good many years. A good deal of that has to do with the manufacturer and creator himself moving on to other things. The old crew has mostly moved on as well. However, it is rare that you will find a forum as nice as this one, and that so many of the old timers keep in touch with. There is also a deep sense of community and friendship here between many of the members.
When I was injured, I got notes, messages, a shirt, and many well wishes from members here. Not a single thing from anywhere else I am a member.

It may not be what it used to be, but this forum is MUCH better than any other. The day that it is like the Nation...I will not participate.

Much love to AO, and its continuing journey through the interwebs,

[SCpoloRicker]

No, it is not.

[dark blade]

well that was short and concise. Care to expand on that? Have you not seen any examples of things going astray from how you feel things once were? or do you feel that threads got locked down all the time before from the people who you must feel never followed rules.

[Miltonyz]

I kinda think this place is a little better then the glory days. Sadly we have a lot less posters but we also have a lot less drama. There was a while where you couldn't read a post on this board without someone taking a potshot at Shartly or him at them. It seems like there was always a five page thread of people calling each other poopyheads. While I was gone there was evidently a big board war that led to BEO and PBL. Now it's slow but generally friendly.

[BigEvil]

Go check out Small Talk on PBN and answer this question.

I agree with many things already posted and I cannot add anymore than has already been said. However, if you feel AO is lacking something, then step up to the plate and contribute more.

You never know what the future will bring.

[ezcreation]

AO is still the best forum around with MCB
I like it because not only you have old schoolers passionated with mags but also because there seems to be an honor code and respect for each other.
I bough once only a marker from nation and had to file paypal complaint...Here it wont happen or at least it didnt...

that said it seems like there is a wave of punks going around, thinking they can just thrash things here and there, bashing AO, having a very narrow-minded capitalistic vision of the world and making it awkward. They wil come and go, I am not worried about it....And even maybe they could learn something about mags too...

[dark blade]

I kinda think this place is a little better then the glory days. Sadly we have a lot less posters but we also have a lot less drama. There was a while where you couldn't read a post on this board without someone taking a potshot at Shartly or him at them. It seems like there was always a five page thread of people calling each other poopyheads. While I was gone there was evidently a big board war that led to BEO and PBL. Now it's slow but generally friendly.

Oh the irony of BE himself responding right after that about "stepping up to the plate" when things go astray.

Didnt you just make your own website instead of stepping up and fixing things? Now, i dont know the story nor do i need/want to. I am just making a statement.

Also, with regards to stepping up, there is only so much a member can do without being a mod here. We can all do our part to try and help with the rules being enforced but we cannot hand out punishments which to most coming from PBN is the only way to get them to listen.

[SSP-SheiK]

No, and here's why not:

1. People that actually have knowhow outnumber those who frequent a forum just for the drama and can actually hold civilized converstaions.

2. Threads dont run amuk within the first three posts.

3. There isnt stupid amounts of bashing in bst's (or anywhere for that matter).

4. Forum moderation is actually present.

[Konigballer]

this question used to come up all the time on here, tho' usually more as a statement of protest.

This place is nothing like it used to be when Tom was on regularly, people really believed in him and the possibility of AGD making a 'comeback' in the paintball world. Of course it didn't pan out that way, Tom left and AO became a much smaller niche forum for alot of old schoolers, and new mag enthusiast. Most of the old schoolers dissapeared, or at least post iregularly but thats not so bad.

This place was VERY click-ish circa '03-'04, some people took the forum waaaay to seriously. It wasn't very friendly to new members. I totally mised the whole forum split thing. I actually quit postig on here for a few years but came back when I finally bought my first Minimag. Now I mostly use it for the Tech and BST forum.

[BigEvil]

Oh the irony of BE himself responding right after that about "stepping up to the plate" when things go astray.

Didnt you just make your own website instead of stepping up and fixing things? Now, i dont know the story nor do i need/want to. I am just making a statement.

Also, with regards to stepping up, there is only so much a member can do without being a mod here. We can all do our part to try and help with the rules being enforced but we cannot hand out punishments which to most coming from PBN is the only way to get them to listen.

Do I not still post here regularly? Do I not still try to be helpful to other members who have technical issues and whatnot?

You dont have to 'enforce' the rules and hand out 'punishments' to effect change. Those are the things that - take my word for it, you would rather not have to deal with.

[ezcreation]

Also the beauty of AO is since technological improvement of mags has stopped that there is a never ending discussion regarding mags, tech them, improve them...We are not dealing with ghizzilion markers here but one type with sub branches, making the topic very interesting for those who care.

Nation has some interesting sections (but the BST) but is too big and wide for me. I like the community feeling of AO.

When going to big games it is such a pleasure to meet mags fellower and discuss topics from the forum...I dont think this could happen on nation...

[FiXeL]

AO is still the best forum around with MCB
I like it because not only you have old schoolers passionated with mags but also because there seems to be an honor code and respect for each other.
I bough once only a marker from nation and had to file paypal complaint...Here it wont happen or at least it didnt...

that said it seems like there is a wave of punks going around, thinking they can just thrash things here and there, bashing AO, having a very narrow-minded capitalistic vision of the world and making it awkward. They wil come and go, I am not worried about it....And even maybe they could learn something about mags too...

That pretty much sums it all up for me. Been on PBN when i just started playing, but that forum is not a pleasant place to post at all for a guy in his 30's. Too many agglet punks around. I've been around AO for about 3 years now, and i really wanted to be here on it's highlight days but i'm not complaining at all. People treat you with respect here, and dealing over here was never a problem at all. No haggling with i got more feedback than you so you ship first, or more importantly i dont ship international. MCB is pretty much the same, but when it comes to mags i preffer to go here.

Is AO becoming like the nation? - I sure hope not....

[Smoothice]

Yeah this place sucks

This place was way better back in the good ole' days.

Lets burn it down


/sarcastic post and vote

[DEEPSEA]

The peanut butter nation is full of little twirps that dont respect the founders of paintball. So to answer the question again......No this is not becomming the Nation, and if you have had a bad deal go south lately then just move on. Lets keep this place drama free.

[pbjunky99]

from the stand point of a fairly new mag owner I have yet to be called a dumb a... or anything like it due to asking questions that some of you may think is "common knowlage". Also in the BST forums I have yet to see someone try to low ball each other or post the "pm me your lowest price" crap. There seems to be a common economic price for most parts which allows parts and guns to retain there value more. Over all this site is nothing like the nation and hope that is never will.