TM-15 pics and first impressions

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  • Warwitch
    Resident Skeptic

    • May 2006
    • 3176

    #1

    TM-15 pics and first impressions

    Well I finally got to a field with the TM-15 today. Overall Im very happy. Ill get to my impressions after the pics you came for.


    Shown with Sanchez Machine SM1 and w/o flip up sights/hopper adapter.










    On the negative side:

    -The paint seems mediocre. Its finished well but doesnt take scuffing well. I could scrape it off the picatinny rail with my thumbnail. This isnt too big of a deal to me. I will be Duracoating mine soon.

    -The trigger, while better than the TM-7, is very uninspiring. Feels very toy-like. Especially after shooting dual bearing triggers.

    Everything else is on the up and up so far. The marker came packaged with a nice toolkit (even a battery) and well diagramed manual. Out of the box it has a great feel. Nice and solid. I gave it the once over before airing it up. It shot 306, 305, 302 (paint was RPS Premium). I didnt find that it was any quieter than my Viking but it wouldnt trigger my Empire Reloader B. I had to use a shake-and-bake hopper so I couldnt really unleash with it.

    Personally I found that a 45/15 on gun was more comfortable than the stock. I didnt use the included flip-up sights either (not pictured). Te marker is ideally suited to a small holo/red dot IMO since the shroud obscures your view of the barrel tip.

    I havent had time to crack the shells yet. Further review info as I dig into it further. So far Kee gets from this customer.
  • maniacmechanic
    PrestonCoPaintball
    • Aug 2006
    • 3453

    #2
    I just don't see you rocking with one of these

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    • Warwitch
      Resident Skeptic

      • May 2006
      • 3176

      #3
      Originally posted by maniacmechanic
      I just don't see you rocking with one of these

      Its a project. I have my reasons.

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #4
        Originally posted by Warwitch
        Its a project. I have my reasons.
        It does look very good for such things.

        With the little bit of red, it reminds me of a sheridan with a cooper t bolt or asa.

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        • snoopay700
          Serious About Men

          • Jan 2006
          • 3071

          #5
          Originally posted by maniacmechanic
          I just don't see you rocking with one of these
          Yeah i can't either, although i do like that it sort of but not really resembles the 416, though i would never play with it.

          Oh yeah, as far as the stock, it tends to be that way with all stocks that are meant for firearms because you shoot a paintball gun differently, plus the whole mask issue.
          Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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          • Warwitch
            Resident Skeptic

            • May 2006
            • 3176

            #6
            Originally posted by snoopay700
            Yeah i can't either, although i do like that it sort of but not really resembles the 416, though i would never play with it.

            Oh yeah, as far as the stock, it tends to be that way with all stocks that are meant for firearms because you shoot a paintball gun differently, plus the whole mask issue.

            True. But the design idea was to place the stock lower than normal to allow for mask clearance. Still a no-go for me. Bottle is still a better stock and one less piece of gear to carry.

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            • snoopay700
              Serious About Men

              • Jan 2006
              • 3071

              #7
              Originally posted by Warwitch
              True. But the design idea was to place the stock lower than normal to allow for mask clearance. Still a no-go for me. Bottle is still a better stock and one less piece of gear to carry.
              Good idea, but it's still not low enough to allow mask clearance. Now it if was as low as the middle of the trigger frame, maybe a bit lower, that might be better. The fact of the matter though is that a paintball gun doesn't have enough kick to warrant a stock in line with the bolt, and many people don't understand that.
              Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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              • Warwitch
                Resident Skeptic

                • May 2006
                • 3176

                #8
                Originally posted by snoopay700
                Good idea, but it's still not low enough to allow mask clearance. Now it if was as low as the middle of the trigger frame, maybe a bit lower, that might be better. The fact of the matter though is that a paintball gun doesn't have enough kick to warrant a stock in line with the bolt, and many people don't understand that.

                And many people forget that stocks provide stability. Again, I prefer to use my tank as a stock. Just saying...... you know, remote users and all that.

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                • snoopay700
                  Serious About Men

                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3071

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Warwitch
                  And many people forget that stocks provide stability. Again, I prefer to use my tank as a stock. Just saying...... you know, remote users and all that.
                  Well of course they provide stability, but paintball guns, especially with masks, have a much better stock when it's lower, usually right around where the tank goes. I never got remote lines myself, it throws off the balance of the gun and takes away a point of stability, i still would prefer a more balanced gun for running than a lighter one with an off set weight.
                  Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                  • Newt
                    Darth Amphibian
                    • May 2009
                    • 450

                    #10
                    Got to hold one of those at Dday this year. My impression was it's a TM7 in a much larger, bulkier dress. Wether you're in the woods or the speedball field, this game is won or lost by speed and teamwork. I'll take the more maneuverable TM7 over that any day.

                    Remote lines are just a hose that snags things. I'll second the above comments, a paintball gun doesn't have enough recoil to need the stock inline with the bolt, so why not mount the tank below and use that? Heck, you can even mount a red-dot on if you feel so inclined. Now you can actually use the thing, too.

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                    • snoopay700
                      Serious About Men

                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3071

                      #11
                      Yeah, i don't get the whole mil sim thing, a smaller speedball gun will help you out in woodsball too more than a big gun will, and then you have a gun that it easy to use in any scenario.
                      Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                      • Jaron
                        Too much time
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 101

                        #12
                        Mil-sim I've never done. I don't care for all the extra weight from shrouds and cosmetics. However buttstocks are useful for people who are used to shooting real firearms. Using a remote ( I've never had a problem with mine snagging on anything, ) and a buttstock gives a marker something that feels and balances more like a real rifle, which is more familiar and comfortable for some people.

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                        • snoopay700
                          Serious About Men

                          • Jan 2006
                          • 3071

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jaron
                          Mil-sim I've never done. I don't care for all the extra weight from shrouds and cosmetics. However buttstocks are useful for people who are used to shooting real firearms. Using a remote ( I've never had a problem with mine snagging on anything, ) and a buttstock gives a marker something that feels and balances more like a real rifle, which is more familiar and comfortable for some people.
                          Well i prefer a buttstock on a normal rifle, but it gets in the way on a paintball gun. They're two very different guns and as suck require different forms of shooting, for me at least. The mask just doesn't allot me to sight, if i could look down the sights fine on a paintball gun with a normal stock i would use that, but the familiarity is outweighed by being able to aim well.
                          Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                          • Jaron
                            Too much time
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 101

                            #14
                            Originally posted by snoopay700
                            Well i prefer a buttstock on a normal rifle, but it gets in the way on a paintball gun. They're two very different guns and as suck require different forms of shooting, for me at least. The mask just doesn't allot me to sight, if i could look down the sights fine on a paintball gun with a normal stock i would use that, but the familiarity is outweighed by being able to aim well.
                            That's just it, I can't argue with your personal preference or opinion. When I first started I liked a buttstock because it felt familiar to me, even if I couldn't get my eye right over the top of the barrel. Sighting over the top versus down the side wasn't a huge difference to me so long as my hands and arms were more out front. I've since adjusted to run my tank off a drop, but it took a while for it to be comfortable.

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                            • snoopay700
                              Serious About Men

                              • Jan 2006
                              • 3071

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jaron
                              That's just it, I can't argue with your personal preference or opinion. When I first started I liked a buttstock because it felt familiar to me, even if I couldn't get my eye right over the top of the barrel. Sighting over the top versus down the side wasn't a huge difference to me so long as my hands and arms were more out front. I've since adjusted to run my tank off a drop, but it took a while for it to be comfortable.
                              Yeah, , but aiming down the top with your mask in the way just doesn't seem like i have as much control. It does all come down to personal preference however, i just never really understood using a stock.
                              Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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