Automag .50 Cal Conversion?

[GRimm]

Actualy you might not have to make a new powertube at all, there is about a little over 12mm of the bolt between the tip of the powertube and the tip of the bolt. Now remember since the paintballs are smaller the breach will have to be sleaved, that means that the bolt will have to be enlongated by about 2mm (just an estimate, didnt feel like doing the math) or the smaller paintball could roll backwards towards the bolt which could allow the next ball to partialy load into the breach, which would cause breaks/jams in the gun.

Now that 14mm of bolt is the part that we would have to make smaller, the rear part of the bolt still covering the powertube would still be its origional size. As for barrels, you could make a sleave for them as well. That way you would still be able to use your barrels. Or you could just make a barrel that could screw into the ule body but it would just have a .50 cal bore.

The only thing im not sure about is I never took the time to find out just how far the standard mag bolt moves forward. As long as it doesnt move to far foward when firing you wouldnt have to mod the PT at all, just new shims, carriers, and bolt springs.

[Watcher]

The only thing im not sure about is I never took the time to find out just how far the standard mag bolt moves forward. As long as it doesnt move to far foward when firing you wouldnt have to mod the PT at all, just new shims, carriers, and bolt springs.

The bolt moves forward throught it's entirety up to the skirt, pretty much.

On your idea, however, if the PT isn't to be modded at all why would we need to mod the internals?

[roxcreek]

Eclipse has already moved on the breech insert and cocker threaded .50 barrel, so the breech and barrel are the last of our worries. If the power tube and the bolt needed to be modified wouldn't we be able to just take the power tube off from it's c-clip and install a smaller version that would in turn work with a .50 bolt that was both smaller in dia, and longer?

[Watcher]

Eclipse has already moved on the breech insert and cocker threaded .50 barrel, so the breech and barrel are the last of our worries. If the power tube and the bolt needed to be modified wouldn't we be able to just take the power tube off from it's c-clip and install a smaller version that would in turn work with a .50 bolt that was both smaller in dia, and longer?

The powertubes are held in by c-clips?

[MoeMag]

Im pretty sure they are laser welded... or something. You know what... lol I am going to find out how to do this. I will tune back in.

[roxcreek]

The powertubes are held in by c-clips?

oh, sorry.... am I wrong there? I thought I saw that somewhere.... my bad

[GRimm]

The bolt moves forward throught it's entirety up to the skirt, pretty much.

On your idea, however, if the PT isn't to be modded at all why would we need to mod the internals?

Yea I figured as much, but I posted it up anyways because who knows maybe it will give someone else an idea.

And its not that youd have to make a whole new line of internals, but you might have to make another couple of sizes of carriers (wasnt thinking when I said new shims) due to the fact that you are shooting a smaller paintball so you wont be using the same amount of airflow as you would be with a .68 caliber paintball. So while you probably would be able to use some of the current carriers, some new ones may be needed otherwise no level X.

Im just speculating since I cant remember if anyone found out how much these new paintball are supposed to weigh or what thier mass is supposed to be.

Either way I'll stick to 68 cal

[Ando]

Well the PT doesn't bottom out on the bolt. It stops right at the last 1/2 inch of it. A bolt could be created with that last 1/2 inch tapered to .50 and the Lvl 10 would still work. All that would be left is a insert made to go into the body and the technology's already there for the barrels...Inserts.



EDIT:

Well crap...Come to think of it. Once the bolt comes forward that insert in the body is going to get smacked. It will only work if the whole bolt is at .50....Hmmm.

Last thing I can think of is making a bolt that the ball drops into. Just think of a Lvl 10 with the same tapered setup as above but is a inch or so longer and has a hole drilled right under the feed neck for the balls to drop in. Bolt goes forward, expels the ball down the .50 insert of the barrel, comes back, another ball drops in the chamber and so on and so on.

I think this conversion kit is going to get expensive tho. Not only for the new bolt but a new feedneck, force feed hopper, .50 insert and so on and so on.

[Frizzle Fry]

Either way I'll stick to 68 cal

I'm with GRimm, as are Tippman and DYE and plenty of other companies who've released statements basically amounting to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Lord knows there won't be .50cal Automags or .50cal cockers so I don't really care as it won't effect me... It won't effect anyone really, since it won't take off. I wish people wouldn't lend credence to a dumb idea by manufacturing a quality marker that'll use it.

If Planet Eclipse wants to stoke the Gardner boys egos or perhaps inflate their own (pun intended) that's their business.