I would love this to become a reality! My local scuba shop went out of business and none of the local fields fill HPA. I live in a very rural area and the nearest place that I can get my air tank filled is 2 hours away each way. This would really be a great thing for me!
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Let's not argue the safety issue. Cause if you are that safety conscience then paintball markers themselves should be outlawed. The same idiot filling a busted tank is probably the same guy doing drive by's on homeless and over shooting his friends.
Here's my main concern...
Does TK have a patent?!?
Cause I would cry is some other company tried to pull a fast one.Comment
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Yeah I think if TK asked for donations more than enough folks would kick in to file for the patent on this. Just to cover all the bases it should read something like ~>Originally posted by Smoothice
"This patent is for any device that can use a device to drive a pump and be used to compress, herd, round up, force air from it's normal state of being into a more compact and higher pressure area. This device is to cover the 1 to 153,987,134.8105492 PSI range with the maximum pressure being what ever is physically possible from any time from now until the end of time. Our research shows that there are no other devices previously manufactured or ever thought of capable of doing this and any data showing the contrary is 100% fictional and wholly insane and has never been made previous to this patent filing"
It's a just a start I know.
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here is a quick question
how long would it take to fill a small pump style HPA tank
like the 13/3k?Comment
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I think compressors have been around long enough that a patent would likely not be needed. Of course I could be seriously mistaken....Originally posted by Smoothice
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Although not ideal, to address some safety concerns and compressor maintenance/wear issues, what if the system only filled to 3K? There would be no issue with overfilling that way and it would still be a big convenience to have home fills, even if you only got 3000 in your 4500 tank.
Would you guys still be willing to pay $200+ for 3K fills?Comment
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I would still pay for a 3k fill at home, air is air and 3k is more than enough to tech my markers when neededOriginally posted by JKR
plus limiting it to only 3k will decrease the fill time.CNC Programmer/Machinist
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Most scuba tanks we use are 3K. If this is for the weekend outlaw ballers with no reasonable access chances are they are using scuba or bulk tanks and 3K would be enough. The tinkerer who is just testing a marker is likely to need a full 45. I don't know if 3K would change anything though.Originally posted by JKR"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr SuessComment
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I wouldn't purchase one if it was more than $45. The local shop is close enough and cheap enough that getting my tanks filled isn't a big deal.Hey, look at that! It's Santa!
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I think some of you are overly ambitious thinking something like this would fill a scuba tank. I think its a cool idea , but it would take a month to fill a scuba tank if it takes over night to fill a 68/3000.Comment
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to lazy to read past page 2 for now but this would be SWEEEEEEEET. as long as its cheap and quiet i would buy one for sure, and i honestly think my best friend would grab one too since he has like 5 guns that need repair now but never has air
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Actually, if it takes 8 hours to fill a 68 ci /3000 then it would take a WHOLE LOT longer to fill a 60 cf /300 psi SCUBA tank ....Originally posted by greezypete
68 cubic inches in typical tank
1728 cubic inches in a cubic foot
103680 cubic inches in a 60 CF tank
68 cubic inches in 8 hours
1728 cubic inches in 8.4 days
103680 cubic inches in 504 days
I'm no math wizard so someone step up if I'm wrong on this...Comment
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well the idea is for 68/45 in 8 hours, up to 3k is going to take much less time than going to 45, so it might not tak a uber long time to fill a large tank to 3kOriginally posted by onecaribou
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Your math is wrong. Scuba tanks are quoted in cubic feet of gas at atmospheric pressure. NOT the actual cubic inches of the tank itself like Pball tanks are. Do the math, a scuba tank is not 1400 times bigger than a typical paintball rig.Originally posted by onecaribou
My rough calculations say about 3 cubic inches filled to 4500 psi in an hour. Guessing at the volume of a scuba tank I think your looking at 12 days to fill it to 4500.
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Thanks for the clarification Tom. I wondered why my numbers looked so high.
I'd definitely pick one up even if it wasn't practical to fill up my scuba setup.Comment
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