Smart Parts will be closed at the end of the month !!

[Frizzle Fry]

"no, that's smart parts your thinking of..."

I'm totally going to use that line.



By the by, the fanboys over at SmartCorps apparently got wind of this thread and have said something along the lines of "it's just those silly AO'ers letting their imaginations run" and saying that if it was official, Smart Parts would have put out a press release or a Rep would tell people.



I know 2 people in "real life" who've got this news from SmartParts reps, and it looks like 2 (4?) more in this thread.

[Shirow]

I'm totally going to use that line.



By the by, the fanboys over at SmartCorps apparently got wind of this thread and have said something along the lines of "it's just those silly AO'ers letting their imaginations run" and saying that if it was official, Smart Parts would have put out a press release or a Rep would tell people.



I know 2 people in "real life" who've got this news from SmartParts reps, and it looks like 2 (4?) more in this thread.

I think I mentioned this in an earlier thread but I have also heard over the last few weeks from a store owner that he's been unable to get any parts whatsoever from SP. They just claim 'out of stock'. On everything? 'Yes'

[TeaQue]

Who would have EVER thought that AGD would still be selling product after Autococker and SP were gone. I wonder who they will claim is going out of business now???

I am sure the dealers still think we suck. I guess they can buy Tippy's and Kingman to stay in business.

AGD

Hah! My local store thought it was awesome that I was trying to source parts for an Automag build

I just got back into PB back in October after a 6yr hiatus and I've owned 3 mags already.

[DevilMan]

hmmmmmmm.... a solid yet fast mechanical mag that can compete with the "mouse-click" triggers of today's electro's??

I don't know how anyone could build such a thing... hmmmmm..

Oh and about SP... Too bad it's pretty much right on about borrowing against a company, letting it fail since all of the bad publicity and starting a new company, with no way to tie them together in the public eye. We may all know that they are related, but the general populace will not. That gives them the chance to make it work. Think we can get GI Milsim and any thing else they are attached to shut down???

Here's hoping..

DM

[Frizzle Fry]

Think we can get GI Milsim and any thing else they are attached to shut down???

Do we have to? This .50cal thing looks like it's going to tank (nothing local in Mass is carrying it and none that I've spoken to intend to order any) and Richmond Italia still has a non-competition clause hanging over him concerning .68cal markers. If anything, they're finally putting their eggs in one basket and it's likely they're going to trip and break them.





The only thing that concerns me is the trickyness of the Gardner boys...

Lately I've had the sneaking suspicion that they converted all of their SP markers to .50cal (easily adapted to .68, hence the obnoxiously thick walls of the body and the goofily small looking barrel) and sold them under a different name knowing that they'll fail. Then when nobody wants .50cal, they start boring the bodies for .68 again and seting up the same old SP-1s,Vibes and Impulses with a brand new name and company that was founded using SP funds.





What I wanna know is why they're "G.I. MilSim"... More three of their five markers are speedball guns.

The other two consist of a vaguely woodsball-designed speedball marker that doesn't simulate any military firearm, and a mech semi that has a mock magazine but otherwise doesn't look like a real firearm in any way, shape or form. As I recall, putting rails on an ION and a making an uglier twin brother to the JT Stealth is not "MilSim".

[Shirow]

Have you seen the 'comparison charts' on their guns too?



What a freakin joke. They give their own gun an overall rating of 5 stars, including for value... I'll be sure to take that into account!

[Frizzle Fry]

"Herm herm... According to our testing, our markers recieved 5 out of 5 stars in vague catergories with no parameters for judgement or other markers for comparison. As you can see, we put lots of little star shapes in the little boxes next to the name of the marker, with more little star shapes next to the expensive models so that you'll be more likely to buy them. Please excuse the catergories in which there are only 4 little star shapes; our star-shaped stamp ran out of ink and we've sent Steve out to OfficeDepot for more."

-Richmond Italia @ World Cup 2009
















*edit: He didn't actually say this. I know how lawsuit-happy the Gardners and their ilk are so I'm taking no chances

[SSP REAPER]

I'm so excited to go into my local paintball store and ask for a rebuild kit.

And when they say (as they always do) "nobody has that stuff. They're out of business".

I can say "no, that's smart parts your thinking of..."

then I will come here and buy whatever I need from AGD or tunaman.

what about me Nik?

[Shirow]

"Herm herm... According to our testing, our markers recieved 5 out of 5 stars in vague catergories with no parameters for judgement or other markers for comparison. As you can see, we put lots of little star shapes in the little boxes next to the name of the marker, with more little star shapes next to the expensive models so that you'll be more likely to buy them. Please excuse the catergories in which there are only 4 little star shapes; our star-shaped stamp ran out of ink and we've sent Steve out to OfficeDepot for more."

-Richmond Italia @ World Cup 2009

*edit: He didn't actually say this. I know how lawsuit-happy the Gardners and their ilk are so I'm taking no chances

'Appearance' is my favorite. 'Yes, this gun is one star uglier than our other guns but it makes up for it in value!'

But Rich, I like the look of this one better than your gun that has 5 stars for appearance!

'WELL, YOU ARE WRONG!'

[MAGslinger]

AGD should be proactive and start to expand. It's high time they come out from the shadows and re-release some of their products. They could cater to pump and stock class by re-releasing the Six-Pack, and then the E-Mag. The time has come.

[Frizzle Fry]

AGD should be proactive and start to expand. It's high time they come out from the shadows and re-release some of their products. They could cater to pump and stock class by re-releasing the Six-Pack, and then the E-Mag. The time has come.

My 6-pack doesn't like anything but Crosman 12ies. That said, a new Micro CA-II would be a hit.

[luke]

Yes it is confirmed. My inside source tells me as of January Smart Parts doors will be closed for good. there are currently ZERO markers or parts on the shelves and the warehouse in California has also been cleared out. I was also told that most marker companies offering a .50 conversion kit have scrapped their plans to offer them. maybe this is the end we have all been waiting for?
:

Their patents are still good, that is as long as they can afford to defend them in court. I'm very curious as to how this will pan out in the industry.

And then on the flip side, this is a very good(bad) indication of what is happening to the economy in this country, which in itself is bad news for everyone.

[Poe]

Have you seen the 'comparison charts' on their guns too?



What a freakin joke. They give their own gun an overall rating of 5 stars, including for value... I'll be sure to take that into account!

To be fair it says "Comparison within the G.I. Milsim portfolio" so they are comparing the MICRO50 to all the other G.I Milsim guns.

Read that picture as:
-The MICRO50 shoots slower, weighs more, breaks down more frequently and looks uglier than our other markers...
..by 20%.

[Shirow]

To be fair it says "Comparison within the G.I. Milsim portfolio" so they are comparing the MICRO50 to all the other G.I Milsim guns.

Read that picture as:
-The MICRO50 shoots slower, weighs more, breaks down more frequently and looks uglier than our other markers.

Indeed, but even in that context, it's still ridiculous.

[xero28]

Here's a couple of quotes form SmartCorps forums:

Yeah the Ao guys seem to be the ones perpetuating these rumors on a monthly basis. What cracks me up is all the BS about the Magic Box and other SP mods for the Automags back in the day, yet what they fail to realize is AGD was contracted by SP to make/install these mods on PL Automags back in the day. Ironic, huh ?

The reason why its hard to order right now, is because one of the sales reps is out due to surgery right now.

She told me herself that they still have markers in stock, it's just taking a little while longer to ship out, as they have to make them first.

I contemplated including the last part of the first quote about the Magic Box and other SP mods, but I decided to include it because I was curious as to the answer. I didn't think that AGD actually contracted with SP for these mods, but that it was something that the end-user (the owner of the gun) had to send in to SP to have done. Anyone have any thoughts on this or actual knowledge as to who contracted those modifications?

I suppose The Man himself might have some input on that?

By the way, I'm really not familiar with SmartCorps, this was the first time that I had ever even heard about it, so I don't know if there are other forums dedicated to SP. But I checked how many people are on the forum there and right now (9 AM, Tuesday morning) there are 0 members and 17 guests, with the most users ever online there being 61. Right now on AO there are 43 members and 60 guests. I guess all of the SP fanbois are over on PBN.