Smart Parts will be closed at the end of the month !!

[Coralis]

I once saw this waterless toilet , it was powered by magical IONs

[Skeeter]

Plz tell me this n00b is kidding. I'm so going to pwnd him if he is

WAS wrong. They also "copyrighted" or have a "Trademark Assertion" for "1337" AND "5EK5".


http://www.simplemachines.org/commun...610#msg1020610

Or even better:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2115417&postcount=33

[going_home]

WAS wrong. They also "copyrighted" or have a "Trademark Assertion" for "1337" AND "5EK5".


http://www.simplemachines.org/commun...610#msg1020610

Or even better:
http://www.automags.org/forums/showp...7&postcount=33

Ok skeeter, you being a shop owner must have something you can add to the subject of this thread,
something from inside the biz so to speak.
Care to share ?

[Skeeter]

Ok skeeter, you being a shop owner must have something you can add to the subject of this thread,
something from inside the biz so to speak.
Care to share ?

Yes... Several posts withing the first 6 pages of this thread.

Don't want to say TOOOOOOO much, but this crowd has been very accurate, and coorelates to the "inside" information that I have.

The sad thing here, is that another PB company is "probably" going under. Not good for the industry; however, each PB company must survive on it's own merrits. This is a good example of Karma, and not many people seem to be truely upset about this development.

[Ninjeff]

Yes... Several posts withing the first 6 pages of this thread.

Don't want to say TOOOOOOO much, but this crowd has been very accurate, and coorelates to the "inside" information that I have.

The sad thing here, is that another PB company is "probably" going under. Not good for the industry; however, each PB company must survive on it's own merrits. This is a good example of Karma, and not many people seem to be truely upset about this development.

"Another" as in-addition-to SP?

[Engus]

"Another" as in-addition-to SP?

The way I read it, he's just refering to SP

[Ando]

Skeeter...

Jumbo jet just flew by

That was a complete joke

That's pretty that they did that...Extremely

They should have copyrighted the word "The" while they were at it.

[Frizzle Fry]

They should have copyrighted the word "The" while they were at it.

They did. Now you owe them $1,500.

[Ninjeff]

The way I read it, he's just refering to SP

Ah. Right right. I must have just read it wrong the first time.

[going_home]

Richmond Speaks (if anyone cares)

Posted here:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3275924

So.. Here is the MP3 download:

http://media.libsyn.com/media/brwp/BRWP132.mp3

At: 17:00 they talk about what is happening with Smart Parts

In short - Shutting down manufacturing in the US and moving over seas and right now everything in the US is completely shut down.

At: 20:30 Italia talks about the physics, and says that the 1.25 gram 50 cal ball vs the 3.2 gram .68 caliber, is basically identical in a controlled environment and that you "can't tell the difference".

Reason is his physics!!! If you shrink the weight down by 2/3's, well, then of course, you need to make the ball 2/3's more BRITTLE!!! to compensate for it.


at: 25:40 - says they are 100% there and ready to roll for rec ball play.

But of course they haven't released it yet...

I'm still listening, but this stuff is rich.

32:40 - Talks about Lasoya and how he said 50 cal was going to take over the industry. Italia jumps around the question, but basically says YES, that 50 caliber will take over the industry and replace .68 because there is NO downside to .50 caliber as he says.

34:40 - can't give us an exact price on the paint yet. Still....

37:00 - ASTM Standards - and changing them.

40:30 - ASTM faster than 300 fps? Italia says: No
He says that 50 caliber has a misconception because it doesn't travel as far... It does travel as far so says Italia.

43:30 - Refers to Tippmann saying NO to .50 caliber, Italia says he's not heard of it. Italia says: Tippmann owners are not paintball players and Howard in particular doesn't know what he's talking about.
I guess Tippmann (according to Italia) just haven't done their own testing to find out what Italia already knows.

53:00 - He hasn't met anyone that has picked up a .50 caliber and hasn't liked it. He refers to world cup... Only one guy didn't like the .50 caliber and he must have worked for Tippmann... Again, there must be a Tippmann conspiracy. LOL.

1:07:50 - 50 caliber is currently not allowed at the PSP level until the netting gets changed as the .50 caliber does not meet certain standards on netting that is fine for 68, but doesn't work well for 50

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Well, that's it for now. Have a listen, and you arm chair physics guys just sitting at your computer, go back to school, because you have no idea what you're talking about according to Richmond.

[Shirow]

The only people excited about 50 cal are the same people who just GOTTA GOTTA GOTTA trade their 2009 guns for 2010.. just gives an actual reason to do it, I guess.

[Rhino1XL]

Does anyone else think Richmond stinks as much as, or maybe even more than the Gardners?

Reminds me of a con artist. Slick, fast talking and some money. But really, just a flash in the pan.

[Frizzle Fry]

Does anyone else think Richmond stinks as much as, or maybe even more than the Gardners?

Reminds me of a con artist. Slick, fast talking and some money. But really, just a flash in the pan.

That WAS his reputation before he dissapeared from "the scene" for a few years.


The Dragun fiasco? The money he and his brother owe people? The Procaps fall-out? His claim to have invented the Matrix?



I'm sure everyone has noticed that GI MilSim has done damage control and removed the Gardners bio from their site... I posted some quotes from it here a month ago and had the thread locked (for fear of trolling and flaming, I'm sure), but clearly they too think some of their absurd statements were just ASKING for trouble. They've also edited some of the more incindiary comments out of Mr. Italias profile...

[ZapTheMad]

I only "disliked" the Gardners before but now I'm pushed over into the "seething hatred" group. The brutal Capitalism was one thing but this is just flat out UNAMERICAN!

First they kill the AMERICAN competition. Then they kill their own AMERICAN company with all the bad rep. Then they destroy all AMERICAN interests because they can't harvest the weeds they planted. Now they run off like little *****es. All while claiming to be sooooo AMERICAN.

I'm glad for all the anti SP propaganda. I'm glad that for every SP supporter there was 10 haters to bash their skulls in. I'm glad everyone's pocketbooks did the talking by avoiding their products. (like a new Chinese price tag is going to make any difference...)

Good bye, good riddance, and get the **** out of my country you back stabbing piece of ****s. Here's a boot in your *** to help you out the door. Enjoy your new Communist friends!

AUTOMAG 4 LIFE!

Are there any other "MADE IN AMERICA" paintball gun companies left? (besides the few pumps)

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I'm glad that for every SP supporter there was 10 haters to bash their skulls in.

Are there any other "MADE IN AMERICA" paintball gun companies left? (besides the few pumps)

Actually, it's really the other way around. 10 supporters or "neutrals" for every hater. Unless the players are active forum members on a few paintball websites, they probably do not know much about the fiasco and won't care.

Bob Long products are still manufactured in the United States. Dye performs a lot of manufacturing in San Diego, although not all of it. Palmers does a lot of work in the US, too (IIRC the body blanks are made overseas. Could be wrong, it's been a while).