Mini Compressor Update :)

[Ando]

I have the fill station to fill a paintball tank from a scuba tank but what kind of adapter is needed to fill a scuba tank ? I never though about that and what that would cost.
4 bux around here to fill a 3000 psi 80 cu in tank, but I wonder what the adapter will cost.

Use the same fill station you use to fill your tanks. It's just going in reverse.

It's basically the same setup as what a dive shop would use.

[CatoRockwell]

Awesome simply awesome with the demise of sp so imminent and this return of our father AGD with this absolutely awesome invention it's like Christmas came early tears of happiness

I think in celebration there should be a shatnerball 2010!

[Smoothice]

I think in celebration there should be a shatnerball 2010!

Lets make it Clareball 2010

[Ratt]

Awesome simply awesome with the demise of sp so imminent and this return of our father AGD with this absolutely awesome invention it's like Christmas came early tears of happiness

I think in celebration there should be a shatnerball 2010!

Give me a minute...I'll go start the "Shatnerball2010" thread...

[matteusz]

Updates soon. The third generation required purchasing special tools that just came in today.

We are definitely talking two models at least. A basic version and a deluxe. I am also toying with you picking from a list of options and custom building them.

AGD

Hey Tom what Pellet gun forums did you post on? I am into air rifles as well as paintball and want to know where you went to talk to people.

There is a lesser known forum with a few people that seem smarter than average that I would suggest here:

http://talonairgun.com/forum/index.php

I am putting up a post to see what comes of it here:

http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=123930#123930

I am super excited to see this project come to fruition. I think there would be a strong demand for these in the airgun market and would be happy to help you advertise or to act as a dealer as I have an established business selling to the airgun community.

To my knowledge most people that would want one of these for air rifle purposes would be filling scuba tanks. That is what I would use mine for too. Hmmm I wonder how many scuba shops would shudder to think about what one of these would do to their business? I wonder how many would want to sell one?

[AGD]

Matt,

Thanks for the offer and the help! I am hoping to sell them into the air gun market so once things get going we can talk.

I am now testing the final design configuration for weak links. Next is lifetime testing.

AGD

[BigEvil]

Matt,

Thanks for the offer and the help! I am hoping to sell them into the air gun market so once things get going we can talk.

I am now testing the final design configuration for weak links. Next is lifetime testing.

AGD

Awesome.

Hey Mr. Kaye, I have a question. Often when we were forced to use scuba tanks for fill, we would cascade them together. Would there be a benefit to taking two of these mini compressors and doing something similar?

[Ando]

Awesome.

Hey Mr. Kaye, I have a question. Often when we were forced to use scuba tanks for fill, we would cascade them together. Would there be a benefit to taking two of these mini compressors and doing something similar?

I would think so Burger Slayer

Double the unit. Double the fun

Back when I was in the Military stationed in Panama. We would go dive and live out in these secluded locations where it was a good 45-50 miles (which would = out to a good one and a half hr drive) to the nearest fill station. These units would been awesome for areas like that. A few marine biologist studding the coral formations in Panama one year stated that was the biggest down fall living out in the boondocks. Having to drive a couple of hrs just to fill tanks.

If this things small and light enough, marine biologist and I'm sure a few other science fields are going to kiss your feet Mr. Kaye. As long as they have a power source they're going to have air and can travel out in areas with out worries of "well we only have air for one dive so lets make it count".

[BigEvil]

I would think so Burger Slayer

My that was a tasty burger.

[chafnerjr]

UPDATE 12-10-09

I am now working with the 95 RPM motor and its filling a LOT faster. Estimates at this point are 6-8 hours for the standard 68/4500. It may be possible to downsize the motor to one less costly and go back to the 24 hour fill. I also have to try boosting the input pressure to 100+ psi. Don't give up hope on the $300 price tag!

[fierymartel]

is this coming with a compressor, or does this just increase the output of your compressor, I think it's called an intensifier. For $300, I'm in.

[AGD]

Its a compressor but it takes an 85 psi shop compressor feed to boost the output and reduce the fill time. If you ran it without the shop compressor feed it will still fill your tank but take several times as long.

Double the compressors means cutting the fill time in half.

Filling scuba tanks with BREATHING air is a different animal because you have to make sure you don't poison the air with anything. There is nothing in my system that would hurt you that I know of, but it would take more research to make sure. I am sure hoping people outside of paintball can use this thing.

AGD

[ezcreation]

Its a compressor but it takes an 85 psi shop compressor feed to boost the output and reduce the fill time. If you ran it without the shop compressor feed it will still fill your tank but take several times as long.

Double the compressors means cutting the fill time in half.

Filling scuba tanks with BREATHING air is a different animal because you have to make sure you don't poison the air with anything. There is nothing in my system that would hurt you that I know of, but it would take more research to make sure. I am sure hoping people outside of paintball can use this thing.

AGD

The breathing air component could be GIGANTIC potential for scuba divers. I play paintball and scuba dive and this would nail 2 issues.

[mostpeople]

The breathing air component could be GIGANTIC potential for scuba divers. I play paintball and scuba dive and this would nail 2 issues.

Hes not making it for scuba fills, so to me that means there are no oil traps, or anything else filter wise to save you from ingesting all those things scuba people don't want to breathe in. Unless he made it with that in mind, I wouldn't try it.

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[Ando]

Damn, totally forgot about the air quality part of this project for scuba.

Dive units use the outside air we breath (no **** captain obvious) and require filters and a water trap. The biggest thing in diving (filling tanks) is carbon monoxide poisoning. That happens when shops don't plumb the exhaust away from the fresh air inlet of a gas powered unit. Lucky we don't have to worry about all that. Water vapor, possible oil breakdown of the unit and carbon dioxide are the 3 big things i would say.

There is a company that sell kits for testing air quality in units like this. I'll try to run down the company a buddy uses for his shop. The company is used by just about every big dive organization and fire departments for testing their air systems.

The big thing here is keeping the air clean. Installing a certified scuba air purifier/filter and water trap in the system will be more then adequate. I believe the fire department air requirements are class D rated, scuba uses class E or E+. The users just need to keep up with the filter changes for this to work.

The biggest downfall using this unit for scuba is by law a unit has to have a certificate saying it's cleared for use (at least in the states). I'm not sure if every unit that's produced needs one or if they all can be lumped under the same certificate under "special circumstances". That's something that will need to be researched.

That could be another option you can offer with the unit Mr. Kaye.