This has probably been asked

[Bigwooly1013]

I know folks hate it when you ask a question and the answer is on the forums 100 times.

My searching skills have failed me if it is already answered.

Did all classic valves ship with 5 stars on them or as time progressed and mags proved to simply not need this maintenance were the number of stars on them from the factory reduced on them?

I only ask because i have two valves infront of me one of which i have owned since 1998. This valve only has one star on it and i have never sent it in to agd. I am pretty certain the guy i got if from didn't either I'll track him down some day and ask.

[Shirow]

I know folks hate it when you ask a question and the answer is on the forums 100 times.

My searching skills have failed me if it is already answered.

Did all classic valves ship with 5 stars on them or as time progressed and mags proved to simply not need this maintenance were the number of stars on them from the factory reduced on them?

I only ask because i have two valves infront of me one of which i have owned since 1998. This valve only has one star on it and i have never sent it in to agd. I am pretty certain the guy i got if from didn't either I'll track him down some day and ask.

My valve only had one star on it and I got it new.

[athomas]

The star system has changed over the years. The original 68Aautomag valves did not ship with any stars. They were listed with lifetime warrantee. That changed a few years ago with an announcement that they were to be treated like a one star classic valve. The next round of valves had classic valves rated with 3 stars and minimag valves rated at 5 stars. The last warrantee star incarnation involved classic valves with one star. The latest and current warrantee involves only the one year manufacturers warrantee. So all older valves no longer qualify for warrantee. Not too many valves ever needed the warrantee anyway.

You can tell if a valve had a star removed. The stars were "drilled off". Basically, a dimple was drilled into the surface to remove the star.

[xero28]

I bought my first mag in '96, no stars. The star system came in later, not quite sure when though.

[going_home]

Airgundesignsusa.com

Taken from :

http://www.airgundesignsusa.com/WarrantyPolicy.shtml

AIRGUN DESIGNS USA INC LIMITED WARRANTY
Please note: Our warranty policy has changed. Read this material carefully.

We offer a 1 year limited warranty from the date of original retail purchase on all markers. This limited warranty covers material, manufacturing, and assembly defects. It does not cover normal wear and tear nor abuse such as wrapping the marker around a tree when you lose a game, nor does it cover damage that occurs as part of a disaster such as an auto accident, house fire, hurricane, etc. It also does not cover a marker that has been taken apart and put back together incorrectly.

All repair work is warranted for 90 days.

The customer is responsible for all shipping and handling charges and fees in and out of warranty.

The star program is discontinued.

Modifications and aftermarket parts and accessories may void warranty at our discretion. See below.

We will not perform any type of service on a marker which has been reported stolen according to our company guidelines.

We will not perform any type of service on a marker which has no serial number.

We will not perform any type of service on a marker if the serial numbers on the valve body and the regulator body of the valve assembly do not match. We will contact you to offer the Valve Exchange program or the Go-X Valve program.

The marker must come in for inspection at the factory before we can consider waiving any fees.

Aftermarket parts and accessories: In many cases, aftermarket accessories such as barrels, expansion chambers and grip frames do not cause a problem and will not void the warranty. Many aftermarket parts and accessories are available. We have no problem with aftermarket parts being installed in our markers. However, please keep your stock parts on hand and replace them first if you have problems with your marker. If we determine that an aftermarket part is causing the problem, the repairs will require at least the rebuild fee per schedule below.

Please do NOT send any barrels or air systems or other removable accessories with your marker unless specifically told to do so by our Tech Department. Airgun Designs is not responsible for any accessories sent to us along with a marker and not necessary to the repair.

Airgun Designs markers equipped with the E-LCD Boo-Yah or Centerflag's Hyper Series Frames ect. WILL NOT be accepted at the factory. If you want us to repair your marker, your aftermarket electronic trigger frames must be replaced by your stock frame. Any marker with an electronic trigger frame will be repackaged and shipped back to the customer without any work being performed on the marker. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Also, Diamond Labs or Dye frames invalidate the warranty and will require a rebuild fee.

Customers and dealers MUST call Airgun Designs to obtain a Return Authorization (RA) number before sending any marker, valve, accessory or part to us for repairs. Any product coming to the factory without a Return Authorization number will be shipped back to the customer. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

If we are unable to obtain payment information from you within 90 days after the date we first contact you asking for that information, your repaired product will be considered "abandoned property" and will be disposed of at our discretion to cover the charges you incurred.

This warranty policy is subject to change or update without notice.

Other Products
Warp Feeds have a 90-day limited warranty. After 90 days have expired, we will charge a $35 rebuild fee plus parts and shipping/handling. Modifications may invalidate any warranty.

ANY modifications made to Flatlines will invalidate the warranty.

REPAIR/REBUILD FEES:
Automag & Minimag $45
RT, RT ULE, RT Pro $65
Emag $90
Warp Feed $35
Flatline Regulator $35
PLUS PARTS, SHIPPING & HANDLING
MISCELLANEOUS FEES:
Mill rail for Warp body $25
ULT install or tune
($25 when purchasing marker) $35
L10 install or tune
($15 when purchasing AM/MM markers) $35

[halB]

Warranties are a significant liability on a business's books. This would motivate any decisions they have.

[Ando]

I had 4 on mine. Think i purchased my first one in 97

[dman314]

mine only came with one

[SkinnyHare]

has anyone even really needed to send one in for warranty work?


i've never once had a problem that wasn't fixed in 10 minutes with a new o-ring and some oil.

[Ando]

has anyone even really needed to send one in for warranty work?


i've never once had a problem that wasn't fixed in 10 minutes with a new o-ring and some oil.

Not on my end. I have/had 4 of them.

[Ratzo]

I've got a Micro E-mag that has a chunk of the stainless steel broken out where the bolt threads into keep the valve in the marker.
Came that way when I traded for it, just curious as to how someone broke it.
Boy it would be great if I could have gotten that one replaced.