Not much sympathy here
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He won't be charged with "aggravated robbery" or "assault". Even a bad lawyer could spin the "I thought they had real guns" story succesfully, and in this situation he was disarming his assailants, who were firing at him with what in this case were 'weapons' that looked and sounded like guns. If they had knives or bats or even a featherduster that they were using as a weapon it would be the same situation.
I remember a case here in Massachusetts where a kid was charged with 2nd degree murder when he "held up" a convenience store with a spraypainted cap gun. It looked real, and the 74 year old behind the counter had a heart attack... Anything is a weapon if you use it as one, even a "shod foot". When the thing you're using as a weapon has a trigger and a grip, goes bang, and fires potentially fatal projectiles, it's especially bad.
I would have done something similar where I in this guys shoes, though I'd have fired 9 less shots and niether of these 18 year old adult "kids" would be walking for a while... I would have stayed and explained myself to the police, too. Assault, vandalism, property damage, criminal mischief... Damn.
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Originally posted by Frizzle FryHe won't be charged with "aggravated robbery" or "assault". Even a bad lawyer could spin the "I thought they had real guns" story succesfully, and in this situation he was disarming his assailants, who were firing at him with what in this case were 'weapons' that looked and sounded like guns. If they had knives or bats or even a featherduster that they were using as a weapon it would be the same situation.
he can and possibly will be charged with aggravated robbery, or assault with a deadly weapon even up to attempted murder for the fact that he disarmed the youths before firing, there is little justification to chasing someone down and shooting them whether they fired with real guns or paintball gus and absolutely even less after said assaliant had been disarmed.
It sounds like all the parties in this case are getting off easy and yes no sympathy either, I woulda shot them as they drove by me and I rarely miss.VV04962 yeah thats my Pewter CnC X-mag
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how it should be!Originally posted by MedicDVGYou also have to realize that this was in Texas, they think slightly different down there about gun control -- to them it means a tight group, not legal limitations.SwallowBleach: It's good for you.
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The man should have followed and reported to police. If he had protected himself at his home, that is one thing. To follow the teens, catch them and disarm them and then shoot at them is worst. He is an adult. Those were teenagers. He is the one that should know better. Teenagers have a habit of making bad decisions. The thought and reasoning process isn't fully developed yet. I know I did a lot of dumb things growing up that I would like to have removed from my past. I don't disagree that the teens should be punished. They easily could have been shot and killed during their shooting escapade.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.
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I would have done the same thing but after disarming, I would have shot the hell out of them and their car with their own guns. Then put the markers under my F-150 *smash*
Best thing is they wouldn't have said anything to no one.
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If it was a mag they were shooting, I would have said thanks.
Last edited by Ando; 12-24-2009, 10:32 AM.
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I agree... stupid kid's and an idiot shooter. Actually the real shooter should be behind bars for attempted murder. Not that the idiot teenagers are innocent, but there's a big difference here. I don't want that guy on the streets in a road rage case.
With that said, he must be a horrible shot. Almost a dozen rounds at what must have been nearly point blank range? makes me think of those police videos where entire glocks are emptied and no injuries.
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Sounds like theres a big chunk of this story missing in the middle... so he disarmed the kids then chased them down to shoot at them... or he chased them, disarmed them, then shot?
I hope the guy gets off free and clear. Screw those idiot kids. Fizzle, I agree, less bullets, more damage.
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My take on it is that the kids probably arn't telling the whole story.
I am guessing that they were out paintballing everything in site. Came on this fellow and started shooting at him. He saw what he thought were guns and being shot at and he returned fire. Hit the kid in the hand who dropped his paintgun. The 2 started to flee and he continued to fire at them. He probably didn't know it was a paintgun till they were gone.
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I've seen two reports from MSNBC that said the shooter allegedly disarmed them first, then one that that says he allegedly disarmed them after... There's also video of the car which has a few bullet holes in the middle of the drivers door, and holes along drivers side and top of the hood right down to the headlights. The police blotter says he hasn't even been found yet so he hasn't had any say in this yet.Originally posted by ajninSounds like theres a big chunk of this story missing in the middle... so he disarmed the kids then chased them down to shoot at them... or he chased them, disarmed them, then shot?
So it's up in the air. Which sounds right more reasonable? The kids out shooting up the town on a tuesday night get shot at by a scared citizen who they've attacked, so they they make themselves sound like victims when the guy isn't there to defend himself? Or the guy "hunts them down", gets out of his car and takes their guns, backs up 20 feet and fires wildly at them from the front of the car to the middle, then get's back in his car and speeds away? The guy hasn't even been found yet, so we haven't heard his side of it.
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Any chance the man in the F-150 had alcohol in his system? Could explain the missed shots and the fact that he was not around after the incident occurred? There is also the possibility that, with all of the bullet holes along the car, that he was not trying to hit someone, but scare them.
I'm curious to see how this one plays out. A respectable gun owner in his case would most likely have reported something to the police. Especially in Texas where the gun laws aren't as strict, if he felt endangered by the "weapons" that were being fired upon him, he wouldn't have been in very much trouble for opening on a car that was firing at him... But the disarmament and the chasing down... If I were shooting for my life, I'd also be headed in the opposite direction of my assailants. Which is why I feel like there is more to the story that has not been told..
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